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IMO kata mixed with sparring, conditioning ext is used alot in TMA because it helps you understand the principles behind the attacks or defences that you practice, they also teach good footwork. After all TMA's can't be learned as quickly as some of the more simple arts, they are not meant to be 1yr long endevours but life long persuits.
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The most dangerous man in Japan only knew 1 Kata but he did it everyday.(Quoting a famous grandmaster at a seminar; his name is not important.) I like kata especially at the beach on vacation..I do nine different kata, once daily and it leaves me totally relaxed. Kata is only about 5% of my total martial arts workout but very enjoyable. If you like Kata then do it; don't try and promote it on your fellow martial artist. So many ma don't see the value nor do they have the time for it.
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OK THAIBRI......I know you can't hold it back respond...(sigh)Comment
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Now, I know why you call yourself, Ipon. Ouch!! LMAOComment
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I'm not saying kata are the end all be all i'm just stating why I personally think kata can be helpful. If anyone else thinks different so be it thats there opinion. I'm not hear to impart wisdom to those with closed ears.Comment
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I LOVE kata.
I love doing it, I love watching good kata people performing it, I love breaking it down and putting it back together, I love teaching it.
I would never use any of my "kata" techniques in self-defence though. At the same time, I would never use any of my sparring techniques in self-defence either. That's why I train self-defence, as another part of my karate. Kind of like I wouldn't use my karate if the fight went to the ground, and I wouldn't use my grappling if the fight was still standing...
Everything is a part of the whole. Nothing is everything.
OMG, I sound like a pseudo guru. It made sense in my head, but I don't know if it makes sense on the screen...
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Making sense.
What you said made perfect sense, cakegirl, at least to me. If I can ask, what specific training do you do that combines all of your training teoghter in one training session? What I'm trying to say is, closing space, changing ranges, going from stand up to chinch to ground, ect.
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Hi Jeremy,
I don't have one style that combines everything. My karate school teaches traditional Shotokan karate, has specific classes for sport karate (i.e. point sparring and competition kata) for those that are interested in it, and has a comprehensive self-defence syllabus that incorporates awareness of danger through self-defence principles and techniques, and a little self-defence for the ground.
But I also study BJJ, and with that, once again, we have some classes that focus on the sport side, and some that focus on the self-defence side.
CakegirlComment
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Sounds familiar
I too have knowledge in different areas without a "bridge" to connect them in a more fluid and functional way. The school that I'm in now (having moved) focuses on self defense against an active, fighting partner whose throwing back at you. We work stand up (with focus mitts) to a clinch (neck tie or underhook) to takedown ( throw or wrestling style shoot) to groundwork (bjj with full but light striking). Combining techniques from different arts into a fluid drill and working them with a partner who is reacting and fighting back by not doing the same thing over and over is a definite plus. When I was at a more traditional school, i saught out training partners to do this with outside the school. I also trained with people who had no ma backround at all, as they move differently and react in ways unexpected.
Good luck in all your training.
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Hi Jeremy,
It sounds like you've got a good school there, incorporating the different types of person-to-person confrontations.
Do you train in Honolulu? I was there last month - Hawaii is niiiiice!Comment
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Hawaii rocks!
I love it here. There's such a diverse culture and the training oppertunities are second to none. The population is primarily asian ( japanese, Chinese and filipino) with polinisian and samoan thrown into the mix. I train at JKD Unlimited under Sifu Burton Richardson. It's definitely been an eye opening experience! The next time you're in Oahu, come on by and check it out.
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Originally posted by cakegirl
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Also, agre with you 100%Comment
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Jeremy, do you train with Molly Helsel? I was going to come down to JKD unlimited while I was there, but I kept forgetting to call her, and then my family came over to Oahu and I was stuck doing "touristy" stuff! (Before my family came, I was in Kailua doing BJJ with Jason Izaguirre.)Comment
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Well, I'm glad you've got this figured out!Originally posted by IPONALWAYS
Also, agre with you 100%
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Molly rocks!
Yes, Molly is an assiatant instructor and has some of the nastiest knee strikes I've ever seen! Her husband, Creightion, is also a instructor under Burton (something he doesn't award very often) and moves quicker and more fluidly than any other "big guy" I've ever seen. They're also two of the nicest people I've ever meet, along with Burton and the entire school. Because we train with a lot more contact than most traditional schools, the school is not open to the public and class size is kept small ( usually 6-10 people) to help weed out people who react hostilly to excessive (but unintentional) contact. When you're doing your free introductory class and checking out the school, the school is checking you out to see if you are able to fit in with what they're doing. This has nothing to do with skill ( as there are students there that have no previous ma experience) but with attitude. The next time you're coming here, pm or e-mail me and I'll help get you in the door!
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