Is this common for people who want to do Judo?

[Zapatista]

Okay, last night I went to a dojo that teaches Judo and Ju Jitsu, so I could watch a class and see how everything goes down. I was really impressed by the facilities and the teachers there. One of the guys there placed 2nd at the nationals in Atlanta over the weekend for the Junior division. So I talked with the leaders and they said that I would have to start at Ju Jitsu before I could make the move to Judo and they said it would be about 6 months. Now is that common, or are they just doing that because they can? They said I'd have to learn how to fall, basic throws, and how to give and get out of submission holds. But couldn't I do that with Judo? Anyways, I'm planning on going to that dojo but I was just curious to see if anybody else had to do Ju Jitsu before Judo.

[Balo]

I do not believe it is common to study Ju Jitsu before Judo, although learning how to fall correctly and to execute basic throws etc sound like how a beginner learns judo.
Anyhow It will be good to learn both arts, so go for it.

[Hardball]

Okay, last night I went to a dojo that teaches Judo and Ju Jitsu, so I could watch a class and see how everything goes down. I was really impressed by the facilities and the teachers there. One of the guys there placed 2nd at the nationals in Atlanta over the weekend for the Junior division. So I talked with the leaders and they said that I would have to start at Ju Jitsu before I could make the move to Judo and they said it would be about 6 months. Now is that common, or are they just doing that because they can? They said I'd have to learn how to fall, basic throws, and how to give and get out of submission holds. But couldn't I do that with Judo? Anyways, I'm planning on going to that dojo but I was just curious to see if anybody else had to do Ju Jitsu before Judo.

Sounds specific to that Dojo. Dojo culture changes from city to city, school to school. I wouldn't be too alarmed, just get in there and Slamm somebody.

[HtTKar]

That sounds like a pretty good idea. since Ju Jitsu came first, it would probably be better to learn that first anyways. This dojo raised a guy to place second in nationals, you should probably take his advise.

Another point is; if you have no prior experience, you will not know the difference anyways. At least they're being honest. Learn all you can.

[Tant01]

Ju Dojo? Go!

Okay, last night I went to a dojo that teaches Judo and Ju Jitsu, so I could watch a class and see how everything goes down. ....

So I talked with the leaders and they said that I would have to start at Ju Jitsu before I could make the move to Judo and they said it would be about 6 months. Now is that common, or are they just doing that because they can? They said I'd have to learn how to fall, basic throws, and how to give and get out of submission holds. But couldn't I do that with Judo? Anyways, I'm planning on going to that dojo but I was just curious to see if anybody else had to do Ju Jitsu before Judo.

Don't get caught up in terminology. Crawl before you walk. Fall before you throw. Learm some basic escapes and counters and reversals befor you wrestle... Throwing is good fun but you must be prepared to land hard without injury.


And knowing how to "finish off" a throw with a good position for submission, restraint or choking is just common sense SD. It's a good idea to learn the fundamentals before you jump into Randori.

[LongStaff]

My class was talking about this last night actually. Judo I personally feel is a better start then ju jitsu. Ju jitsu is great for ground work and both teach you how to fall correctly, chock, submission fight, etc, etc., but I have been to two different ju jitsu schools and for most of time during the class was spent on the mat on my back working the gaurd. Now don't get me wrong this was great learning experience, but as a judoka, my main goal is to throw my opponent first(and hopefully to his back), and then move into ground work. If all they are having you do for the first 6 months is work on the ground and fall correctly you could get borried and discourged unless you really are gun ho about it. If so it will be a great stepping stone.

Decide first where and what you really want to do if its Judo you may wish to talk to the sensi and explain to him that you would like to learn some throws, too. It also could have been a misunderstanding b/c if it is a judo/ju jitsu school I dont see how they would do nothing but ground work for your first six months and then just say ok now its time for judo, during your first time with randori you move in with no knowledge of throws, so you try a take down to get them to their back and your opponent reverses it on you, your thrown for a ippon and you lose as well as used nothing of what you learned (excpet for the breakfall) in the last six months.

I may be a lil baised towards doing Judo, but if Judo is what you want to do then you need to learn breakfalls, pinning and holding, and the throws first. A lot of my ground work came from learning it on my own and figuring out what works for me rather then what works for someone else.

[Zapatista]

Now I have another question. One of the reasons I want to do Judo is because it is the most accesible to me, but what I really want to do is Sambo. Would Judo be a good stepping stone for Sambo since Sambo is based partly on Judo/Ju Jitsu? Or would it be better for me to just wait until I move and find a Sambo school at my new location?

[BadgerFu57]

Train now while you can. Judo, JuJitsu, and Sambo are all very inter-changeable.

Just train what you can now, and focus on becoming extremely good at whatever they are teaching you. Even if it seems mundane now, the basics are so important. I started BJJ 2 years ago and still wish I was better grounded in fundamentals. Even something as simple as a collar choke or straight armbar, if you master it, can be something you can use in your grappling toolbox for the rest of your career.

[ddrive]

I guess.

Now I have another question. One of the reasons I want to do Judo is because it is the most accesible to me, but what I really want to do is Sambo. Would Judo be a good stepping stone for Sambo since Sambo is based partly on Judo/Ju Jitsu? Or would it be better for me to just wait until I move and find a Sambo school at my new location?

I've studied judo for about 2yrs, and it mostly trains how to take someone to the ground and jujitsu works an opponent on the ground. if the teacher wants to show you ground work first, then learn all that you can from it untill you move over to Sambo.

[sirmattu]

i train in judo, and have done jui jitsu. having to start in jui jitsu first is unnessesary, because for the most part what you would be learning as a beginner is basicly the same. ukemi waza's.