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  • Kung Fu = Karate? History?

    Looking for your perspective in a little history.

    Back when the occidental split from the oriental and the oriental headed east from the Ural Mountains - we have the east really developing the manual fighting skills and the west...well not really.

    Tibet and China seemed to be the early breeding ground of the most popular martial arts today - Chinese, Japanese, Korean.

    My question of discussion is whether karate came out of kung fu - as it was the Buddhists who civilized and educated all that region of the planet and this is true of them taking the culture of the fighting arts from the mainland into the islands.

    Similarities can be seen in some older styles of karate to kung fu but not easily seen in the modern eclectic scene.

    What ya recon?
    martialarm.com

  • #2
    not much of that matters, as Royce Gracie demonstrated to the world in the early UFCs, even Chuck Norris wised up and has a Black Belt in BJJ

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    • #3
      Originally posted by OmaPlata
      not much of that matters, as Royce Gracie demonstrated to the world in the early UFCs, even Chuck Norris wised up and has a Black Belt in BJJ
      well of course he does he did fight in the ring...why wouldnt he follow where the ring fighting fad went? im sure he isnt learning it for self defense...he has body gaurds who handle that.
      Wow Chuck Norris does bjj ...you must be SO proud...maybe you can recruit van damn next

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      • #4
        oh btw since your precious bjj evolved from jujutsu/judo perhaps it does matter.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by martialarm
          Looking for your perspective in a little history.

          Back when the occidental split from the oriental and the oriental headed east from the Ural Mountains - we have the east really developing the manual fighting skills and the west...well not really.

          Tibet and China seemed to be the early breeding ground of the most popular martial arts today - Chinese, Japanese, Korean.

          My question of discussion is whether karate came out of kung fu - as it was the Buddhists who civilized and educated all that region of the planet and this is true of them taking the culture of the fighting arts from the mainland into the islands.

          Similarities can be seen in some older styles of karate to kung fu but not easily seen in the modern eclectic scene.

          What ya recon?
          martialarm.com

          I "recon" that someone posted this same thing, word-for-word on several forums.


          Why do people do that?

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          • #6
            Anyone know of martial arts with history developed out of hungary, austria etc?
            Last edited by martialarm; 08-20-2005, 02:08 AM. Reason: accidental duplicate

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            • #7
              Im finding all the martial arts forums are very interesting and also quite different, do you think its ok to visit multiple forums but not to participate in multiple forums?

              This one is obviously one of the best and I would be interested in anything you know of the original Tibet forms etc

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              • #8
                Originally posted by martialarm
                Im finding all the martial arts forums are very interesting and also quite different, do you think its ok to visit multiple forums but not to participate in multiple forums?

                Too much trouble to have an original thought?

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                • #9
                  guess i touched a sensitive nerve with the stand up " bruce lee farce" martial arts lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OmaPlata
                    guess i touched a sensitive nerve with the stand up " bruce lee farce" martial arts lol
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                    oh yeah you fixed us...so what you recruited chuck norris.....I know all the stand up fighters on the planet are changing their styles because we all worship Chuck Norris...if chuck says bjj is the shit i believe him
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                    • #11
                      oh yeah you fixed us...so what you recruited chuck norris


                      What's funny is... The only reason he knows Norris does BJJ is because he was talkin' smack in another thread about how his BJJ would ROXXOR a panzy like Norris and somebody set him straight.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gregimotis
                        What's funny is... The only reason he knows Norris does BJJ is because he was talkin' smack in another thread about how his BJJ would ROXXOR a panzy like Norris and somebody set him straight.
                        hehehehe but now he's enlightened...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gregimotis
                          What's funny is... The only reason he knows Norris does BJJ is because he was talkin' smack in another thread about how his BJJ would ROXXOR a panzy like Norris and somebody set him straight.


                          the point was, that you uneducated retards with your diminished capacity's couldnt grasp, was the Norris was smart enough to see that the stand up "bruce lee crap" was exactly that, crap, so he switched to BJJ.....now go back to cartoons and kicking padded wood boards while you yell real loud, lol

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OmaPlata
                            the point was, that you uneducated retards with your diminished capacity's couldnt grasp, was the Norris was smart enough to see that the stand up "bruce lee crap" was exactly that, crap, so he switched to BJJ.....now go back to cartoons and kicking padded wood boards while you yell real loud, lol
                            Oh.... well my bad...so how many different styles do you have in your toolkit? It sounds like you have tried all the rest and found bjj to be the best...is that it? Have you tried the other arts? or did you start out rolling around on cushioned surfaces with sweaty men in uniform and just instantly understand on a very deep level that this was the art for you?
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                            • #15
                              < did you start out rolling around on cushioned surfaces with sweaty men in uniform and just >


                              -well thats one thing that makes it ten times better than any other martial art, you actually test you skills every time out, with all different sizes and skill levels, so when u do fight a sweaty guy of any size you can tap him out.....instead of yelling real loud and trying to do a "Van Damme" flying kick that doesnt really work, as the world has seen in every MMA event

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