Aikido vs boxing

[aku aku]

Hello,

What would Aikido’s strategy be against a boxer or someone with a quick jab that doesn't make a lot of committed attacks? Are there any Aikido people here that have trained/sparred/fought with boxers or other martial artists?

Thanks.

[medic06]

Boxers have a small but very effective set of tools to use. They train hared against real resistance. The average Aikidoka should avoid fighting them.

[BoarSpear]

i agree with medic06, if a pure aikido guy tries a boxer hes gonna NEED a medic Best technique for an aikido guy faced with a boxer would be "brave tiger hauls ass"

[aku aku]

i agree with medic06, if a pure aikido guy tries a boxer hes gonna NEED a medic Best technique for an aikido guy faced with a boxer would be "brave tiger hauls ass"

Have you trained in aikido or with someone else that trains in aikido? I only know it my reputation but I have trouble believing they would be helpless against any boxer.

[BoarSpear]

Have you trained in aikido or with someone else that trains in aikido? I only know it my reputation but I have trouble believing they would be helpless against any boxer.

No, i havent trained it for any great length of time ( i am aware of the principles and theories however)... since one of my students has 25 years experience in it...and one of my training partners runs an aikido/ kendo school so i have a fair amount of experience on seeing its skills applied... boxers, wrestlers, mt people, WC people all make thier lives miserable...thats how i know them, they are cross training in striking arts and grappeling arts to bridge the gaps in thier knowledge base....as we all should

[aku aku]

No, i havent trained it for any great length of time ( i am aware of the principles and theories however)... since one of my students has 25 years experience in it...and one of my training partners runs an aikido/ kendo school so i have a fair amount of experience on seeing its skills applied... boxers, wrestlers, mt people, WC people all make thier lives miserable...thats how i know them, they are cross training in striking arts and grappeling arts to bridge the gaps in thier knowledge base....as we all should

After cross training for a while, do the aikido people find ways to make their art work or to deal with other martial artists?

[BoarSpear]

After cross training for a while, do the aikido people find ways to make their art work or to deal with other martial artists?

do they "make" the aikido work ? NO. do they build on thier knowledge base and find things that work for them? yes...was thier training in aikido a waste of time? no ...would it have been time better spent learning a more applicable system ?
Perhaps. usually adding small circle jujutsu and or chin na with a striking system shores up the weaknesses...but ruins the traditional value of the core art.

think of it like this...if you have and old bowie knife from the 1800's and its dull as hell and tarnished...its valuable as a historic relic, but useless as a knife...if you decide to clean it up and resharpen it, you have a functional knife but you have lessened its historic value to a collector...so are you someone who collects martial arts? or someone who uses them?

[medic06]

Have you trained in aikido or with someone else that trains in aikido? I only know it my reputation but I have trouble believing they would be helpless against any boxer.

yes I have

[HtTKar]

What would Aikido’s strategy be against a boxer or someone with a quick jab that doesn't make a lot of committed attacks?

Try to find some way to take him to the ground. Not a lot of ground game in the boxers toolbox.

[danfaggella]

i often question the validity of aikido, it seems like it is only takedowns involving the upper body (wrists, arms, shoulders), which seem okay in principle and im sure that thier technique has plenty of aplication, but its very limited without strikes or any real groundwork in my knowledge (besides some wrist/elbow submissions i see)

is this a bad view of aikido?

[ddrive]

It may sound silly but.

Hello,
What would Aikido’s strategy be against a boxer or someone with a quick jab that doesn't make a lot of committed attacks? Are there any Aikido people here that have trained/sparred/fought with boxers or other martial artists?
Thanks.

If an aikido student was able to practice evasive footwork and head/body movement, one would be able to move with the boxer to conterstrike. It still would be hard to apply a lot of throws or locks, but you'll have a better chance.

[HtTKar]

Just as its a bad idea to take a BJJ guy to the ground and try to fight him there; I dont think it would be a good idea to try and take a boxer in a stand-up fight. Thats allowing him to use his strengths against you. Even the best boxers have a hard time countering. It would be very difficult for anyone else to time and counterstrike a boxer. The best idea would be to take his strenths away from him. Get him in a real clinch, or take him to the ground. Stay very close to him and look for ways to offbalance and take him down. Use elbows, knees, shoulders, and headbuts whenever possible as a boxer might not be looking for these types of attacks. Whatever you do, try to make it end very quickly.

[JkD187]

theres really no stragety for an akido person to do because of the way they train. im not saying all but most akido people dont train against a resisting opponent, compare that to boxers who spar and compete often and who's skill set is of use to them because they can hit some one who dose not want to be hit...i would like to see a 60 year old 125lb akido guy throw a 6'2 250lb boxer like he throws his training corpse... i mean partner around

[danfaggella]

im sure with limited strenth and great technique it is possable, but it would be very hard unless the aikido man got in on the boxer, the boxer would want to keep him at arms lenth

[aku aku]

theres really no stragety for an akido person to do because of the way they train. im not saying all but most akido people dont train against a resisting opponent,

You could say that about many martial arts schools. I guess my assumption was an akido person who trains correctly, against a resisting opponent and has the ability to use his art.

A friend is interested in an akido class and I was thinking of joining him. I thought it might be interesting to get together outside of class, put the gloves on, and try to make the material work.