Aikido B.S.

[neb1979]

Hi 47MartialMan,

I couldn't really say as I have never trained in Aiki-Jujutsu. Although the pre war Aiki-Budo was more structured around the techniques and philosophy of Aiki-Jujutsu. It was post war when Moriehi Ueshiba started to blend his philosophy and principles of the Omoto religion into his art.

So yeah in some way I guess you could say the harder styles being strong towards Aiki-Jujutsu. Although not all styles

Cheers
Ben

[47MartialMan]

It is strange, as with art who had a distinct instructor, after his passing there are some power-struggle issues.

My previous post about Aikido not for close range combat was not to belittle it.

And the Aikidoist at the pub was too confident, he should have "taken it" outside.

[kiddbjj]

try tomiki aikido if you have it near by. they have a form of modified sparring similar to judo, except they also spar with one person using a fake knife.

looks ok, much better than any other aikido cause u actually get to use it

[Rickster]

i think any art could benefir anyone all pending what they are willing to do with it

[tranquil]

hmm

well traditionally in the days Morihei Ueshiba, most students came from other arts.

but I have gotten some effective easy to use techniques out of my five years in aikido. many of them can be taken to defend against punches and holds> such as shiho nage (four corner throw) which a quick easy manuever whch can dislocate a shoulder if ur countering it from a roundhouse.

but Aikido is an art of peace but its it ur responsibility and the responsibility of the instructor to find the meaning in the movements.

but yea, i myself would prefer to learn two arts instead of just aikido by itself. For me i have just used it to supplement my skills and mind.

some of us find unecessary just to fight and brutally injure people but if ur one of those ufc guys then u probably wont like it since u will just want to bang and not hear O Sensei's dokas.

[47MartialMan]

I had a run in with an Akidoist. He didnt do so well. Then again, I knew more about Aikido than he of my skills.

[Garland]

I had a run in with an Akidoist. He didnt do so well. Then again, I knew more about Aikido than he of my skills.

yeah man...props to your mad skillz.

[tranquil]

I had a run in with an Akidoist. He didnt do so well. Then again, I knew more about Aikido than he of my skills.

i believe in aikido, but i wouldnt trust a straight aikidoka against muay thai since we are not allowed to spar. Unless of course he was O' sensei (lol) sparing is not allowed the org. that runs it in japan.

but then again, i have had no problems using some of the movements where i didnt really want to harm the person but just deter them from any more aggresion.

but for me aikido has greatly increased my quickness (Due to the part most of Aikido is circular movements around opponent), mental awareness and me less of a hot cannon.

[Lone_Knight]

I've done Aikido, and you do learn some pretty flashy moves, but I'd choose Jiu-Jitsu or Judo over Aikido anyday.

Aikido is a good... erm... i'll say support art. You learn a lot more fighting mentality then anything else. They really put pressue on staying calm. If I were you I would join just to learn stuff for your head, and less about the actual moves.

[Rickster]

I've done Aikido, and you do learn some pretty flashy moves, but I'd choose Jiu-Jitsu or Judo over Aikido anyday.

Aikido is a good... erm... i'll say support art. You learn a lot more fighting mentality then anything else. They really put pressue on staying calm. If I were you I would join just to learn stuff for your head, and less about the actual moves.

I havent done Aikido, blondes, brunettes, but not Aikido and redheads

[sojobow]

There are, depending on the quality of the school and the instructors...a few quality concepts and ideas...but BJJ, judo, shooto, CSW, jj, greco roman, collegic, or any OTHER type of grappling art is going to be 1000% times better, and geared towards actual encounters.

wu-tang...world wide.

This post is absolutely wrong. No offense to Garland as the thought is quite common, but its wrong nonetheless.

[Garland]

This post is absolutely wrong. No offense to Garland as the thought is quite common, but its wrong nonetheless.

Ok...how so?
All the Aikido I've seen has been complete shit.

[neb1979]

Hey Garland,

could you define what you mean by "complete shit"

Cheers
Ben

[Juicefree]

Correct me if I'm wrong (as many do) but Ueshiba had considerable experience in reality based (life/death) situations, in fact, dare I say it more than the founder of any other modern day martial art. To suggest that the style,as practiced by Ueshiba, is sh*t, is short sighted and wrong.

However Aikido is substantially based around minor joint locks and precise body positioning. My impression is that, when practiced correctly, Aikido is immensely powerful, however to practice it effectively is extremely difficult ... subsequently it looks, rightly so, sh*t.

I think a lot of martial arts have suffered from the 70/80's McDojo instructors and Aikido is an art that requires a greater depth of skill and understanding than most others, subsequently it has suffered more.

I'd suggest that in the majority of cases the effectivity of a martial art comes down to the quality of the instructor, dare I say most Aikido instructors are sh*t ?

[Garland]

Correct me if I'm wrong (as many do) but Ueshiba had considerable experience in reality based (life/death) situations, in fact, dare I say it more than the founder of any other modern day martial art. To suggest that the style,as practiced by Ueshiba, is sh*t, is short sighted and wrong.

However Aikido is substantially based around minor joint locks and precise body positioning. My impression is that, when practiced correctly, Aikido is immensely powerful, however to practice it effectively is extremely difficult ... subsequently it looks, rightly so, sh*t.

I think a lot of martial arts have suffered from the 70/80's McDojo instructors and Aikido is an art that requires a greater depth of skill and understanding than most others, subsequently it has suffered more.

I'd suggest that in the majority of cases the effectivity of a martial art comes down to the quality of the instructor, dare I say most Aikido instructors are sh*t ?

Ueshiba watered down the art. Jigoro Kano turned it into a sport...whatever it was, it's gone...and now it's been so commercialized there's no hope of ever getting what it once was back...on top of that, it doesn't address today's problems. Get over it.