Mas Oyama

[Thai Bri]

If you believe all the hype.

[Uke]

If you believe all the hype.

Well we all know that you don't believe anything, hype or otherwise. Without a YouTube clip to validate your opinion you happily live in denial. Just like some fools here believe that if a style hasn't been seen and successful in NHB it isn't formidable.

Stop trying to lump Mas Oyama into a category with Bruce Lee, Thai Bri. Oyama wasn't an actor or an action film star. He was a fighter. Many of the worlds best martial artists have witnessed his fights and feats. He's been on the news here in NY, and performed and fought in Madison Square Garden. So unless you're accusing Oyama of being David Copperfield and performing some mass illusion that fooled thousands of spectators then you're simply playing devil's advocate just to be an ass.

I suspect that if there wasn't a YouTube clip of Kimura thrashing Gracie you sheep would argue that fact too.

[jubaji]

Oyama fought over 270 matches undefeated with no rules or gloves and managed to defeat wrestlers and judo players without having to role (sic) around on the ground like today's supposed experts.

And that plays nicely to your fears and insecurities while feeding the fantasies that sustain you down there in the basement.

[jubaji]

the high priest of hero worship

I'm not trying to make Oyama seem superhuman.

Oh no, it doesn't seem like that at all...

[Thai Bri]

Well we all know that you don't believe anything, hype or otherwise. Without a YouTube clip to validate your opinion you happily live in denial. Just like some fools here believe that if a style hasn't been seen and successful in NHB it isn't formidable.

Stop trying to lump Mas Oyama into a category with Bruce Lee, Thai Bri. Oyama wasn't an actor or an action film star. He was a fighter. Many of the worlds best martial artists have witnessed his fights and feats. He's been on the news here in NY, and performed and fought in Madison Square Garden. So unless you're accusing Oyama of being David Copperfield and performing some mass illusion that fooled thousands of spectators then you're simply playing devil's advocate just to be an ass.

I suspect that if there wasn't a YouTube clip of Kimura thrashing Gracie you sheep would argue that fact too.

You know what? Where are all these vast vast crowds that saw all these amazingly masturbating inducing feats?

[Garland]

...Ok. Bas Rutten is a fraud...so was Helio Gracie. Randy Couture faked it.
It's all a load of shit.

[Garland]

http://www.judoinfo.com/kimura/masahiko_kimura.htm

http://www.masutatsuoyama.com/100mankumite.htm

http://www.masutatsuoyama.com/masoyama.htm

"He is also noted for starting the Full-Contact, Bare-Knuckle tournament systems."

...that's an improvement...
what have YOU done jubaji? Bri? Nothing but bitch and gripe. Fine, don't believe it, but stop ragging on the man...no matter how you cut it, the dude did some good. So get to work, let's see what YOU guys come up with in the next 30 years.

[DickHardman]

So get to work, let's see what YOU guys come up with in the next 30 years.

the only thing jubaji has come up with is that lame story that nobody believed, about him suplexing a knife wielding attacker with a move he learned from monday night raw, and an extremely explicit fantasy about me, garland, and matt blake all being jubajis personal cabana boys that he jerks off to every night after he has finished off another multi-hour stretch of trolling on defend.net.

and the only thing bri has done is drink tea and eaten more crumpets at his computer, while telling us all about how out of shape he is and how back in the day he got tricked into taking some sorry wing chun classes from a school he admitted himself was a mcdojo lol.

[jubaji]

stop ragging on the man...

Who is "ragging on the man"? I don't see that at all. In fact, if anyone is doing harm to the "man," its people like pUke who want to turn him into an idol to serve as the depository of all his own fears and fantasies and thereby diminish the actual human being. The angry defensiveness in the face of what is only (you would likely admit under other circumstances) very natural and healthy skepticism, and the block-headed refusal to think clearly about the matter don't speak well of you at all, and I'm a little surprised by it to tell you the truth. I had come to expect better of you.

[jubaji]

the only thing jubaji has come up with is that lame story that nobody believed, about him suplexing a knife wielding attacker with a move he learned from monday night raw, and an extremely explicit fantasy about me, garland, and matt blake all being jubajis personal cabana boys that he jerks off to every night after he has finished off another multi-hour stretch of trolling on defend.net.

I would advise you to seek help, but you are clearly beyond helping at this point. Just go get stoned and STFU dopey, that's about the most you can hope for.

[DickHardman]

dont get mad cause i tell it as it is.

[jubaji]

If you ingest enough weed I'm sure you'll eventually believe that....

[Garland]

The angry defensiveness in the face of what is only (you would likely admit under other circumstances) very natural and healthy skepticism, and the block-headed refusal to think clearly about the matter don't speak well of you at all, and I'm a little surprised by it to tell you the truth. I had come to expect better of you.

Which seems more dubious-
1) a man killing a bull with his bare hands
2) a martial artist paying off a large amount of people to conspire against the general public for some unknown reason and faking several seamless videos (not like the one posted) of him doing the act...and all of this in front of people.

You are the one making the man out to be more than he is... an illusionist and a man capable of this type of mass-scale conspiracy seems like a feat far surpassing that of killing a fucking bull.

Shit...some red-neck ex marine killed a BEAR last week with a log defending his kids... What's so hard to believe about a guy who can slice the necks cleanly off beer bottles and smash river rocks with his hands slicing the horns off of a bull, and smashing it's skull?
I've seen rodeo hands tackle bulls like Oyama did...they just didn't break the bull's neck.

[Thai Bri]

Who is "ragging on the man"? I don't see that at all. In fact, if anyone is doing harm to the "man," its people like pUke who want to turn him into an idol to serve as the depository of all his own fears and fantasies and thereby diminish the actual human being. The angry defensiveness in the face of what is only (you would likely admit under other circumstances) very natural and healthy skepticism, and the block-headed refusal to think clearly about the matter don't speak well of you at all, and I'm a little surprised by it to tell you the truth. I had come to expect better of you.

Seconded............

[jubaji]

Which seems more dubious-
1) a man killing a bull with his bare hands
2) a martial artist paying off a large amount of people to conspire against the general public for some unknown reason and faking several seamless videos (not like the one posted) of him doing the act...and all of this in front of people.

Why have you abandoned your ability to reason in this case? Why so desperate to cling to this image?