What Do You Think Of Akido?

[Uke]

it was wack inmop. and thats why i stopped taking it. and thats only my opinion, which mr arieson didnt want to recognize cause he is so insecure about his own training. as i said everyone is into different stuff, if you are satisfied with your own training then thats all that matters. i wasnt satisfied with what i was learning. maybe the instructor wasnt a good one or something, who knows. but i had to find something that satisfied me.

I agree. You should enjoy whatever you are doing. I just think you calling aikido "wack" after Arieson has put years into is a bit offensive. He didn't come off insecure to me at all. He seemed to be trying to help you understand that different doesn't imply "wack".

yeah? so do other martial arts. some even more than others.

for example, aikido would require lots of training before you could even begin to use it. muay thai or boxing can be used almost immediately, cause even after a few lessons you will know how to punch much better than before. the sooner can learn to defend yourself the better inmop.

Very true, but if your concern was to be battle ready as soon as possible Muay Thai certainly wouldn't be your choice. I'm sure you've reaped benefits from practicing it but that has nothing to do with whether its the best choice for being ready for fighting. Combatives get you ready much faster and are much more complete for street self defense, but I'm not going to call it better. It just serves its purpose just like Muay Thai serves its purpose.

There are many arts that require longer periods of practice before an individual can us it for practical application, but those arts don't suck because of it. Internal arts, some FMA's, and Aikido all are more complicated than simply kicking, punching and wrestling, but there is a nice payoff.

Just because you aren't aware of the payoff doesn't mean that there isn't one. I understand that you want something that produces results right now but don't confuse getting quicker results with being a better system. That's not the same thing.

[DickHardman]

i understand you guys love aikido, but sorry, it just wasnt for me. i didnt like it. there are arts i enjoy way more and find more beneficial to me personally. thats all there is to it. if you like it, and you are satisfied with it, then thats all that matters and you really shouldnt feel the need to try to prove anything.

[jubaji]

broken f-ing record

if your concern was to be battle ready as soon as possible Muay Thai certainly wouldn't be your choice. I'm sure you've reaped benefits from practicing it but that has nothing to do with whether its the best choice for being ready for fighting. Combatives get you ready much faster and are much more complete for street self defense.

Do you get a commission every time you post something like that?

[DickHardman]

Do you get a commission every time you post something like that?

i wonder the same thing every time i see one of your lame one liners lol...

cause if you did you would be donald trump status.

[Uke]

Do you get a commission every time you post something like that?

Avoid any altercations lately, Bunny?

[jubaji]

That's a good comment, but a Combatives comment would be faster and more effective of course.

[Uke]

That's a good comment, but a Combatives comment would be faster and more effective of course.

But I'm sure you'll settle for watching computer generated graphics instead.

[Tom Yum]

But I'm sure you'll settle for watching computer generated graphics instead.

Uke, once again - I am not jubaji. So the references to avoiding altercations is mine, not his.

If jubaji is claiming to be me, then this is wear I draw the line. Or if someone is telling you that I am him, they are full of it. period.

Nothing against jubaji - he does his own thing, but get your folks straight.

[jubaji]

But I'm sure you'll settle for watching computer generated graphics instead.

Would those be computer generated Combatives graphics? Those would be the fastest and most effective ones.

[Tom Yum]

So, tying this into the Aikido question: I just don’t see Aikido as a providing good training for the ring-style fist fight or for a self defense situation or combat. I really don’t see any benefit other than what I stated earlier: it’s a low intensity exercise that doesn’t greatly increase any athletic attributes and a neat philosophy. You might make a friend doing it.

Aikido seems to be rather good at keeping self-defense 'legal' friendly; no offense - entirely defensive.

[Ghost]

I guess ultimately we all do martial arts for different reasons and have different ideas even when it comes to self defence.

All these arguements come about simply because we expect everyone else to be looking for the same things in martial arts that we do.

Of course this doesnt happen, just try asking someone what colour a room should be and youll get disagreement.

Ultimately though its your room and you can have it any colour you damn well want. If you get what i mean.

So if it serves your purpose and you are happy with it then crack on.

[DickHardman]

Do people like Dick Hardman realize that if I use chokes, and hard strikes to someone's face, or Muay Thai elbows to someone's throat, that I might kill them or seriously injure them?

you dont have to kill or seriously injure people if you have self control. even if all you know was muay thai, there are plenty of ways to stop people without seriously harming them if you want to, like hitting them with a body shot, leg kick, or leg sweep to knock em off balance etc...

Aikido may just give me a way to control and submit someone without harming them.

arts like judo and jiu jitsu also allow a person to do this, its not something unique to aikido.



btw, im not sure if age is that great of an excuse unless you have injuries that arent healing right or something cause there are PLENTY of older guys that train in MT, judo, jiu jitsu etc...... some of the toughest, strongest guys on the mat are over 40 years old and thats a fact.

[Uke]

Uke, you made some excellent points. I liked your posts on this subject.

Why thank you. I aim to please.

[jubaji]

LOL ... that sounds about right for a traditional American Aikido school. But as I said, don't let your experience sour you to Aikido. You've only experienced one interpretation of it.

What interpretation of it have you experienced? Share your experience with us.

[ScottUK]

The thread from the dead!!!