Is Something Wrong With A Black gi?

[LightHevyWeight]

3rd Kyu is brown belt in most systems. Actually 3rd degree brown.

my mistake i meant like the 3rd belt not the 3rd kyu

[LightHevyWeight]

hey Hardball, tell me more about how the black gi symbolizes rank..

[jubaji]

exactly what i use to think, but u know man, these guys are right, biggeners shouldn't wear different gis

I think you missed my point.

[jubaji]

first of all, im not trying to stand out or be special OK?!, i just thought the black gi really beats the crap out of the white gi..its awesome

Which means you were trying to stand out and be special.

[Hardball]

hey Hardball, tell me more about how the black gi symbolizes rank..

It's considered a Combat ghi or a night ghi which symbolizes experience not neccesarilly rank.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

To my knowledge in Japan, everyone that trains at a certain school wears the same colored gi, well Kimono and zubon/Hakama, as the two can have different colors too
The color of the outfit is part of the tradition.
Can't speak for BJJ or any other than japanese jujutsu but 9 out of 10 schools/ryu will have white gi
Weird though that it seems that mostly the unarmed arts use a white Kimono whereas Kendo and kobujutsu tend to wear dark blue/black

A Gi is not a fashion statement and the choice of color shoulds only be answered with, What's normal for students in your school

[Tant01]

Seems okay to me to wear black if you expect some BLOOD or dirt to get on your uniform.

It can be a real bitch to get blood out of a white one.

There is much symbolism in the arts. White is good, black is evil...

[Hardball]

There is much symbolism in the arts. White is good, black is evil...

My good friend, I have to disagree with you on this one. Maybe your statement is true in society at large but not Martial arts. If it were true, then the Black Belt would not symbolize excellence.

[Tant01]

Nothing honorable takes place in darkness...

My good friend, I have to disagree with you on this one. Maybe your statement is true in society at large but not Martial arts. If it were true, then the Black Belt would not symbolize excellence.

With all due respect, the first level of black belt in Japanese is called shodan. It literally means "first level" or "beginning step".

It's hardly a symbol of excellence...

[LightHevyWeight]

It's considered a Combat ghi or a night ghi which symbolizes experience not neccesarilly rank.

aaaaah..ok

[LightHevyWeight]

Seems okay to me to wear black if you expect some BLOOD or dirt to get on your uniform.

It can be a real bitch to get blood out of a white one.

There is much symbolism in the arts. White is good, black is evil...

o........k

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

With all due respect, the first level of black belt in Japanese is called shodan. It literally means "first level" or "beginning step".

It's hardly a symbol of excellence...

true, but in most systems up to around the seventh or eighth degree is still black i believe. that's a pretty high level of excellence

and as for the symbolism, the meanings of colors vary wildly across cultures. black doesn't always have a negative connotation. for some interesting reading on where our notions of light/good vs. darkness/evil look up Zoroastrianism, a religion of the Persian Empire that greatly impacted Christianity and Western thought in general.

[jubaji]

So, think you've confused the kid enough?

[Hardball]

With all due respect, the first level of black belt in Japanese is called shodan. It literally means "first level" or "beginning step".

It's hardly a symbol of excellence...

Hey by the way, I hoping to get my Nidan this summer. LOL. White belt has the same meaning. LOL

[kwai chang pain]

My Sensei would not let me wear a Black Ghi until I was a Brown Belt. In traditionalist it symbolizes rank, fighting prowness and it is frowned upon by many instructors. Especially Asians. They don't want beginners wearing Black Ghis.

Same for me. Only brown belts and above were allowed to wear black uniforms. I always looked at it like the black was appropriate because it stood out to beginners and non-students. It was basically for instructors and junior instructors.