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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hardball View Post
    Actually, popping out a pinky finger brings excrutiating pain and a lot of classical Jujitsu instructors teach the technique to their woman students. It falls into the category of finger locks/breaks. Professor Wally Jay has some real nice ones in his aresenal.
    That's part of his small circle jiujitsu arsenal, no?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
      That's part of his small circle jiujitsu arsenal, no?
      Exactly Tom, Exactly. You won't find that technique in MMA, BJJ tourneys or even a Thai Boxing match but it is nice to know for self defense purposes.
      Last edited by Hardball; 01-20-2009, 03:34 PM.

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      • #33
        Teyubi Gatame?

        Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
        That's part of his small circle jiujitsu arsenal, no?

        Yes....... I think it's required for grading... ?

        (I'm also asking)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
          Yes....... I think it's required for grading... ?

          (I'm also asking)
          Probably, but I am not sure. Professor Jay is 95 and retired from teaching but I'm sure his son Leon Jay has kept that technique in the cirriculum.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
            Wristlocks work if someone grabs your wrist.

            I have never understood how they would work in a real fight, but whole systems are centered around them :Aikido, Hapkido and of course small circle Jujitsu. They must work in some sense.
            Look at Tanto's post, he has some good ideas. Also, they work on weapons disarms.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
              Wristlocks work if someone grabs your wrist.

              I have never understood how they would work in a real fight, but whole systems are centered around them :Aikido, Hapkido and of course small circle Jujitsu. They must work in some sense.
              They also work from clothes grabs, clinching/trapping, and grappling range.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                I think treelizard had some posts about some guy who really makes wristlocks and aikido style holds work in MMA. But the name escapes me.
                Yea, I was kind of piggy backing that thread but put in in the Japanese forum instead of the Womans forum. She posted a vid of her wristlock DVD. I don't remember the name of it either.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hardball View Post
                  Have you ever used one in unarmed combat? Do you think they are mainly for use by Law Enforcement and Corrections Officers?

                  I know Royce Gracie once submitted someone with a wristlock but I don't think I've ever seen anyone else use one.

                  All locks are breaks. What are you feelings/opinions on this?
                  Well in practise, wristlocks are very effective. In reality, nobody sits still while you clamp down on his wrist. If someone is high on PCP, you can break their wrist, and they might still keep coming.

                  We need to remember that guys like Gracie are at the top of the pack. Are we that fast? Do we have a plan 'B' if we miss the grab?

                  I'd just as soon knock/choke him out. Knockout punch or takedown and he hits the pavement (preferably hard.) Then run. The idea is to save a life; yours

                  Trust your training, and let it kick in. That's my nickel's worth
                  Last edited by Middleweight; 01-21-2009, 02:07 PM. Reason: typo

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                    Wristlocks work if someone grabs your wrist.

                    I have never understood how they would work in a real fight, but whole systems are centered around them :Aikido, Hapkido and of course small circle Jujitsu. They must work in some sense.
                    Wrist locks work anytime someone grabs you, almost anywhere - from common handshakes to lapel choke attempts - you can almost find a wristlock.

                    I was introduced to them in two different ways. The first was just by learning and memorizing sets of locks - which is okay. The second was from learning a technique and applying it in different settings - stand-up, on the ground, infighting etc.

                    The second way was much better.

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