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  • #16
    tenzen,

    I'm happy to accept you believe in what you believe in.....I just don't buy it without proof.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tenzen View Post
      no i have no link to any official documentation of this as i would not even know where to start.

      I didn't think so.

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      • #18
        Not too worried about ninja.

        My own country's military has enough classified weapons and delivery systems to kill every one on the planet...

        That scares me.

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        • #19
          Modern day Ninja's killing entire units with no media coverage...not freakin' likely unless ninja is a new designation for a Chemical/Biological agents.

          As for Shaolin Monks roaming the country testing their techniques on the 2nd class citizens, that's about the dumbest shit I've read today, and if you read Guro Jeff's posts today applauding the beating/hospitalization of a mentally handicapped guy in a dojo that says a lot.

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          • #20
            Who is Guro Jeff and why would anyone applaud beating up an intellectually handicapped person?

            The guy sounds like a right loser.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by WildWest. View Post
              Who is Guro Jeff and why would anyone applaud beating up an intellectually handicapped person?

              The guy sounds like a right loser.
              He essentially said the guy got what he deserved.

              Then when called on it he claimed he didn't have audio (like it was needed) to see it was uncalled for.

              He also said if the video upset you stay out hardcore schools because he saw worse stuff all the time.

              He never did admit he was wrong, he just he would be more careful his posts didn't upset others.

              The video:


              Diesel67's pics - Vicious dojo beatdown.flv


              The description posted by the "teacher".




              Guro Jeff:

              YouTube - Kerambit Targeting with Custom Strider Knife
              Last edited by TTEscrima; 08-20-2009, 12:30 AM.

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              • #22
                nothing like honor....

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
                  nothing like honor....
                  Actually he directly discounted that in his posts too when several people brought it up.

                  He said it was normal old school hardcore Dojo behavior.

                  Guess we're not old school hardcore.


                  I mean really, the dude said he was promoted to 10th degree Red Belt by Jesus.

                  I've gotta get with the times, I didn't even know Jesus had a school.
                  Last edited by TTEscrima; 08-20-2009, 12:49 AM.

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                  • #24
                    it's not like the roamed the countryside killing random people.

                    it's more like people we're brought to them usually criminals and this was seen as a service to society.
                    and this isn't the dumbest shit out. remember that this isn't only limited to the monks, most older fighting systems we're developed this way then tested in combat

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Movement View Post
                      it's not like the roamed the countryside killing random people.

                      it's more like people we're brought to them usually criminals and this was seen as a service to society.
                      and this isn't the dumbest shit out. remember that this isn't only limited to the monks, most older fighting systems we're developed this way then tested in combat
                      Yes I'm aware many cultures and systems did this, but you're the only person I've ever heard attribute this to Shaolin monks.

                      Especially the concept they experimented on second class citizens. The same people known for helping the poor certainly didn't also drag them off for nefarious experiments to perfect their techniques.

                      These are the vows they recited daily:

                      Sentient Beings are numberless, I vow to save them all.

                      Sufferings are inexhaustible, I vow to end them all.

                      Dharmas are boundless, I vow to learn them all.

                      The Buddha Way is unsurpassable, I vow to embody it.


                      The Yang Family has claimed to have participated in experimenting on prisoners, but I highly doubt the Shaolin Monks found the practice acceptable.

                      While morality wasn't always taught at Shaolin, it was one of the conditions of Shaolin being rebuilt ages ago. I've studied extensive documentation of the development of the systems, their founders and their attributes, none were noted for the behavior you claim.

                      There is no shortage of stories of this behavior from the ruling classes in China, and no shortage of stories of the Japanese doing it...but the Shaolin monks? Thats all you.
                      Last edited by TTEscrima; 08-20-2009, 02:45 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
                        Not too worried about ninja.

                        My own country's military has enough classified weapons and delivery systems to kill every one on the planet...

                        That scares me.
                        ......

                        Not me.

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                        • #27
                          Sad...

                          Bull shit. The "Karate" man should be charged with assault and battery. Sued for pain and suffering, etc...

                          Someone that incompetent can't even sign a waiver.




                          Originally posted by TTEscrima View Post
                          Actually he directly discounted that in his posts too when several people brought it up.

                          He said it was normal old school hardcore Dojo behavior.

                          Guess we're not old school hardcore.


                          I mean really, the dude said he was promoted to 10th degree Red Belt by Jesus.

                          I've gotta get with the times, I didn't even know Jesus had a school.

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                          • #28
                            the incident was recorded but not that they were killed by ninjas. it says a whole platoon of marines was killed by their drinking water being spiked with arsenic. the people who were supposed to be responsible for cooking and the like were japanese. these stories are not so modern, i mean they are but not as modern as you may be thinking. they come from ww2. so yes they are modern but at the same time they are not.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tenzen View Post
                              the incident was recorded but not that they were killed by ninjas. it says a whole platoon of marines was killed by their drinking water being spiked with arsenic. the people who were supposed to be responsible for cooking and the like were japanese. these stories are not so modern, i mean they are but not as modern as you may be thinking. they come from ww2. so yes they are modern but at the same time they are not.


                              If the incident was recorded, provide a link or something beyond, "Like, I think there was this book, see..."

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                              • #30
                                Exactly...

                                Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                                If the incident was recorded, provide a link or something beyond, "Like, I think there was this book, see..."
                                Camp 731


                                Unit 731 Experimental Camp

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