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    • #32
      Originally posted by Drew Howe


      The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking.
      - John Kenneth Galbraith
      So, it is a system that teaches people to get their asses kicked.

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        • #34
          Arguing about these kinds of things is what's stupid...

          I can't comment on Drew's "Quelling" as I've never seen it.


          1. If attacking eyes continuosly in close ranges is trained with 100% resistance from your opponent, you'll learn to pull it off against fully resistant people. Period.


          2. These tactics need proper delivery systems behind them. That means you're going to have to know how to shrimp and elevator someone and have a strong groundfighting background in order to get him into good position for these types of tactics.
          If you're standing up you have to have a strong background in clinching skills from Muay Thai and Greco Roman to move the person into position to continuously do these tactics without them being able to do anything about it.

          3. Anyone who thinks "eye gouging" alone can save them from a wrestler is in for a rude awakening...

          4. Anyone who thinks all "eye gouging" tactics are based on unrealistic training, and can't ever be sparred at full contact.....is also in for a rude awakening.


          I guess that's all I have to say on the subject.

          But, I'm sure the "drama" will continue

          Ryu

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            • #36
              Because the eyes are a smaller target, it is a good idea to set an anchor on the guy to keep him from moving as much when jabing. Such as a grab with your left or right hand around his neck, while the other hand is busy tearing into his eyes. To set this up, you will most likely need to slam into him hard with a shock movement. I call this mazing. The idea is to leave him confused if not out cold. A hard upper palm strike to the chin is a good shock.
              A upper palm hit to the chin is one of the most disarming, devestating and relitively easilly applyed techniques. Can you comment some more on your applications of Mazing? I'd like to hear about others techniques with shock value that you've found to be effective. I hope that you dont hold back any good knowledgable information because you think it could effect video sales. Thank you in advance for the comment if you give one. I don't check the board very often.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Drew Howe


                  I chuckle at Jubaji because he has no basis for his criticism of my program. He's never seen it. What holds his ears apart?
                  I can't wait to see your ad in the back of KIK U magazine. Will it have a picture of you scowling and pointing at the reader over a caption that reads: "Learn to defeat any man, or any group of thugs, in a few short weeks. Make no mistake, at the most extreme level, this is a deadly force program. The program is a useful lifesaving tool for any law abiding citizen, but it is particularly useful for law enforcement officers involved in high risk operations. Before paying for this course and the 55video tapes that accompany it, you must promise never to show this deadly new system to any bad guys, 'cause its so dangerous that it would spell the end of civilization as we know it if anyone but you got their hands on it! It is simple to learn and does not require any memorization. Best of all, it sucks to be the bad guy.
                  How cool is that? I have made up a bunch of bullshit jargon to make it easier for me to sell tie-in merchandize...I mean to teach you all my deadly secrets. Oh yeah, I've taught this devastating new system to the command of the Maryland State Police Region III CAT Team (High-Risk Operations Unit), the SEALS, CIA, FBI, IRS, SPCA, and morning musume so you know it must be as deadly and devastating as I say. Don't be a pussy, call now!"

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                  • #39
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                    • #40
                      Looks like you got your wish Ironpalm. . . .

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                      • #41
                        The sad reality is that a lot of successful eye attacks are sometimes done with weapons. Improvised weapons like brooms and sticks. And also liquid solvents like Bleach and lye. {Tales from the Joint}

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by jubaji
                          So, it is a system that teaches people to get their asses kicked.
                          As usual the thread is over over your head Jumanji The styles sound effective thats what counts.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Ironpalm
                            As usual the thread is over over your head Jumanji :

                            of course...

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                            • #44
                              ???

                              For what it's worth, it just seems to be a rehashing of techniques that have already been introduced to the public and packaged in such a way to take advantage of peoples insecurities! If there was something completely new and different that sets this apart, please point that part of it out.
                              And jubaji- please copywrite your mock magazine post (#38) before I steal it for my "When house pets turn hostile" tape series, what you don't know may kill you!
                              Mahalo, Jeremy

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Jeremy Lobdell
                                And jubaji- please copywrite your mock magazine post (#38) before I steal it

                                help yourself!

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