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q-a;
good idea - i'll do that.
Chop Wisby
q-a;
good idea - i'll do that.
Chop Wisby
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here's a small blurb from the second section, footwork. it sounds like fma or boxing..some of it very familiar:
"III. Of Footwork
.F irm footwork is the font from which springs all offense and defense. The body likewise should be firm and stable - right shoulder turned towards the enemy.
If you can hit by extending the arm only, without even using the feet, so much the better since the body should be always ready and firm. This is far better than the snail-like wiggling some fencers show, wresting themselves from side to side. Each movement takes time, and if you can perform an action not in two motions but in a half motion so much the faster and better.
In footwork as well, by orderly, discreet, and controlled motions, you will win. Proper size steps depends on the individual's stature and frame, but each step can only be straight or circular.
The right leg is the strength of the right hand, and the left leg is the strength of the left hand. So, the right hand attack should be accompanied by the right leg. Take care that the foot and arm move together. Above all, do not skip or leap, but keep one foot always firm and steadfast.
The blow of the point or thrust cannot be handled without consideration of the feet and body, because the strong delivering of a thrust consists in the apt and timely motion of the arms, feet, and body. The object is to be able to deliver a thrust from the ready position in as little time as possible. "
"III. Of Footwork
.F irm footwork is the font from which springs all offense and defense. The body likewise should be firm and stable - right shoulder turned towards the enemy.
If you can hit by extending the arm only, without even using the feet, so much the better since the body should be always ready and firm. This is far better than the snail-like wiggling some fencers show, wresting themselves from side to side. Each movement takes time, and if you can perform an action not in two motions but in a half motion so much the faster and better.
In footwork as well, by orderly, discreet, and controlled motions, you will win. Proper size steps depends on the individual's stature and frame, but each step can only be straight or circular.
The right leg is the strength of the right hand, and the left leg is the strength of the left hand. So, the right hand attack should be accompanied by the right leg. Take care that the foot and arm move together. Above all, do not skip or leap, but keep one foot always firm and steadfast.
The blow of the point or thrust cannot be handled without consideration of the feet and body, because the strong delivering of a thrust consists in the apt and timely motion of the arms, feet, and body. The object is to be able to deliver a thrust from the ready position in as little time as possible. "
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back lever
apparently the medieval guys found the back lever to have a lot of utility; that seems reflected in modern jkd literature, as well; (burton richardson seems to demonstrate variations of this tech. fairly frequently)
apparently the medieval guys found the back lever to have a lot of utility; that seems reflected in modern jkd literature, as well; (burton richardson seems to demonstrate variations of this tech. fairly frequently)
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also, it's used a lot in contest/competition/combat judo a lot, as well..and in jujutsu...held to be very applicable by both arts..
however, in those arts, it's referred to simply as Major Outer Reap.. same idea though..
Backlever? if they say so....
however, in those arts, it's referred to simply as Major Outer Reap.. same idea though..
Backlever? if they say so....
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o-soto?
i don't know, that doesn't look like o-soto-gari to me; altho some applications are like ko-soto-gake or ko-soto-gari (small outside hook, small outside reap);
if anything, the tech. looks more like aikido's sokumen irimi-nage or gyakugamae ate-nage; in old-school judo, you might reach down & grab the front of the belt for obi-otoshi (belt drop);
i don't know what burton richardson or other jkd'ers call it, but the main tech. really doesn't look like the major outer reap, to me.
Chop Wisby
p.s. for multi-disciplinary medieval jkd fun, read:
i don't know, that doesn't look like o-soto-gari to me; altho some applications are like ko-soto-gake or ko-soto-gari (small outside hook, small outside reap);
if anything, the tech. looks more like aikido's sokumen irimi-nage or gyakugamae ate-nage; in old-school judo, you might reach down & grab the front of the belt for obi-otoshi (belt drop);
i don't know what burton richardson or other jkd'ers call it, but the main tech. really doesn't look like the major outer reap, to me.
Chop Wisby
p.s. for multi-disciplinary medieval jkd fun, read:
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you're right. it was minor outer reap. my fault.
I've always thought it odd judo divides the throws into so many categories. I do a major outer reap, and my wrestling buddy says "great leg trip". I do a minor inner reap, and my wrestling buddy says "great leg trip". I say "no, those were both different throws"..He says "how do you figure?"..I explain the kuzushi on one goes one way, while you push the other..and the kuzushi on the other throw goes the other way, while you push the other..he says "nah, same throws" and throws me with both.
I tend to think this is the better way to train them. I think judo was trying to develop a language sot he specifics of each throw can be easily described to another. I say osotogari, and you know what I mean, very specifically. I say ko uchi gari, and you know I mean a very specific different thing. I think this is terrible for teaching however..as my friend pointed out, the mechanics of both are really the same: throwing someone with a reap.
This isn't a weird defensive response to your correction, Chop, just an aside that it brings to my mind.
I've always thought it odd judo divides the throws into so many categories. I do a major outer reap, and my wrestling buddy says "great leg trip". I do a minor inner reap, and my wrestling buddy says "great leg trip". I say "no, those were both different throws"..He says "how do you figure?"..I explain the kuzushi on one goes one way, while you push the other..and the kuzushi on the other throw goes the other way, while you push the other..he says "nah, same throws" and throws me with both.
I tend to think this is the better way to train them. I think judo was trying to develop a language sot he specifics of each throw can be easily described to another. I say osotogari, and you know what I mean, very specifically. I say ko uchi gari, and you know I mean a very specific different thing. I think this is terrible for teaching however..as my friend pointed out, the mechanics of both are really the same: throwing someone with a reap.
This isn't a weird defensive response to your correction, Chop, just an aside that it brings to my mind.
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reap what opponent sows
no problem, q-a;
i just wanted to make sure we were on the same sheet of music;
that being said, the small outer reap can be done from the position we're talking about; but as the HEMA article suggests, and as some jkd tech. suggests, that might not be the optimal use of the position when you want to down the opponent, but keep your feet.
in one major method, your leg b/h his acts as a block and/or fulcrum while the opponent goes down more or less on his back (this can be a dangerous technique, so readers who don't know breakfalls shouldn't do this one);
in another, you cut in diagonally, & down him diagonally; in effect, your leg "slices" in b/h his (a cross-face palm strike helps the process along);
of course, there are also leg pickups from this position.
i hope i am making sense.
Chop Wisby
no problem, q-a;
i just wanted to make sure we were on the same sheet of music;
that being said, the small outer reap can be done from the position we're talking about; but as the HEMA article suggests, and as some jkd tech. suggests, that might not be the optimal use of the position when you want to down the opponent, but keep your feet.
in one major method, your leg b/h his acts as a block and/or fulcrum while the opponent goes down more or less on his back (this can be a dangerous technique, so readers who don't know breakfalls shouldn't do this one);
in another, you cut in diagonally, & down him diagonally; in effect, your leg "slices" in b/h his (a cross-face palm strike helps the process along);
of course, there are also leg pickups from this position.
i hope i am making sense.
Chop Wisby
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clean sweep
bttt
bttt
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yet again . . .
anybody else use this one?
anybody else use this one?
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2001
they're good sites, i'm telling you . . .
they're good sites, i'm telling you . . .
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