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  • #16
    it's an aspect of the way. nothing more.
    harley

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 4 Ranges
      Be very aware of your own strengths and weaknesses. I highly emphasize this because we, as students of the martial arts, often look for easy answers by asking easy questions. "what style should I study?" "what's the best style?" "who's the best fighter in such & such a style?"
      Good point. What is more important: "the style you study" and "the best style" or "can I kick, punch, destroy, clinch, takedown, etc., etc." and "can I fight against someone that can kick, punch, destroy, clinch, takedown, etc., etc."? It's all about the application of your techniques, not the techniques and the style.

      Originally posted by 4 Ranges

      My point? Please don't forget that, in the middle of searching for the "correct" school, instructor, styles, books, videos, etc., you include your own abilities to discern for yourself what is true for you in combat.
      "What is true for you in combat." Another good point. I see it as combat/fighting/self-defense having three truths. First is your truth: that is why you train, lift weights, work out, study, etc. Second is the opponents truth. His truth is the exact opposite of your truth. His truth involves making sure your truth doesn't work. That is why he trains, lifts weights, studies, has a weapon, etc. You don't have complete control of this truth. We spar, though, so that we will be comfortable working against someone elses truth and are familiar with different resistances. The third truth is the truth of the universe, which involves shadows, slippery ground, people hiding, you twisting your ankle, etc., and we have even less of control of this truth than the second truth.

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      #18
      I agree with you chad, but I if I may add to your points, I'd like to say that you really have no control over any of those three truths..instead you have two skills-
      a: awareness and b: adaptation.



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      • #19
        I origianlly would say that you have control in the first truth, because we all have control of whether we decide to sit down and watch TV or to skip rope for a few rounds, or throw a hundred jabs, or whatever we decide to train for that day. The point was that alot of people train this first truth without ever looking at the others.

        I don't believe we have any control of the second and third truths, BUT, we have the choice to spar as often as we can, and be able to be comfortable with as much "second truths" as possible. So while we don't actually have control, we have control enough to become familiar with energies that happen and are probable and possible.

        The third truth I say is the universal truth in which, while we don't have control of a piano dropping on our head, awareness can be cultivated. We control avoiding dark alleys or "trouble" spots, or understanding when you body tells you something is wrong, etc., etc. Training at a disadvantage, trying to fight while hopping on one leg can simulate a twisted ankle, fighting on wet grass and mud can simulate slippery surfaces, etc., etc.

        Hey, we must be on at the same time, I just posted that.

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        • #20
          hm.. well. the perspective i had in stating we have no control of the first truth was that we have no control of what we are initially before training, that will decide how we train. so..i'm not a beefy guy.. hence, I spend a lot of time trying to improve strength and power, while maximizing on already existing speed and stamina.

          So I don't have much control over how I train..now, granted, I do have control, as you say in your last post.. I can choose to train or not..and I can also choose to train my good points, rather than suffer through training my weaknesses.. but I consider that adapting..

          However, after reading your last post, this point seems to be nitpicking..or just giving a different perspective..that we have no control..just awareness and adaptation..

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          • #21
            You got the idea I was getting at. Kind of like that rice/fried rice/Thai sticky rice analogy that Harley used.

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            • #22
              grappling is part of the way, nothing more.
              Harley

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