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[TKOU]

Lot's of wrestling styles use pummelling drills to drill the clinch range. Neck, body, wrist and combo pummeling are all very common. We start out the pummeling drills with a cooperative flow (you go, I go, you go) and work to a competitive flow (you win or I win and maintain control until the other guy takes the clinch back) Muay Thai does alot of this flavor drill with heavy strikes from the knees and elbows. Paul Vunak uses the same types of drills and adds headbutts to the knee and elbow cycle and of course your wrestling drills incorporate the myriad of takedowns/throws that can occur in this range. Combine them and let the fun begin.


TKOU

[HungryWolf21]

Has anybody ever thought about (or just plain done it for that manner) working the pummel in a pool or in the ocean for added resistance? This seems like that it would help with balance (especially in the ocean) and strength development.

[Chad W. Getz]

Reummelling

What I don't like is the pummeling drill done to the extent where it looks like a rhythym drill and the two guys are just working the "pummelling" WITH each other rather than AGAINST each other. So...remember to keep the pummelling drill alive and working against resistance, this is the best way to develop real time sensitivity against resistance.

[HungryWolf21]

Couldn't have been put better Chad. One can't get much from pummeling by putting it into a pattern. It would be better to wrestle someone standing up who has no training than pummeling in a predictable manner.

[Twisted up]

Clinch development

Everyone here seems to be on the same page regarding the clinch! (Remarkable considering the nature of forums)Definitely work Greco-Roman wrestling to develop the clinch (along with leg techniques of course).

After learning some technique with takedowns and control, you MUST work the strikes in. Develop awareness to defend shots to your groin. Usually any time someone tries this, they set themselves up for a front headlock.

The "Functional JKD" series from Matt Thornton (Straight Blast Gym) will show how to tie it all together. PLUS, the NEW series from Dan Henderson will be the SERIES TO GET!!! That's available NOW I think.

Good training to all!
John

[Chad W. Getz]

One way we work the clinch is though alot of positional clinch sparring-no strikes. Once the understanding of that is there and you are comfortable clinching against a resisting partner, put the mask on and just isolate that you can both only put in one particular punch, example: the overhooked arm hitting the back of the head, etc. Next add in a different punch, next mix with both punches. Then isolate a third type of punch, then mix it all, and so forth. Punches will basically come as hooks from both sides, uppercuts and overhands from both. Once you've isolated these, mixed it up, then just do clinch sparring. The goal of both is to gain superior clinch position and strike without getting hit. Then you add the knees in the same progression, and mix it all up. Eventually we want to aim to be comfortable in the clinch with a larger, smaller, or equally sized person that may be stronger, weaker, more flexible, more experienced, or less experienced person. And you can't have enough "time" put in with this. The more you put in, the better you get. Of course, you want to do this in all the ranges as well. Every now and then, slow it down, try a technique, analyze what you do, progressively try it out of position sparring and eventually work it untill it's all out clinch sparring.

[Kevin]

Working the clinch

Hi guys...

Happy Holidays to all my friends on here.... and the rest of you guys too!

I received my Xmas gift from myself earlier this week.... the second tape from Erik Paulson's CSW seminar set. Erik was kind enough to split up the set for me. I wanted to get a tape which dealt with the clinch and I heard he had some good material on this tape.

>>The "Functional JKD" series from Matt Thornton (Straight Blast Gym) will show how to tie it all together.

I have the clinch tape from Matt Thornton, and I think that this tape compliments it well. I thought that this tape gave a better progression to work into stand-up positional clinch sparring... but both tapes are must haves for the modern cyber-warrior!

I am going to rewatch the tape.. take notes... and will post a review on Erik's tape later.

>>PLUS, the NEW series from Dan Henderson will be the SERIES TO GET!!! That's available NOW I think.

Have you seen this series... can you give an overview of what the different tapes cover? I heard some good things about some applicable "trapping" material that was to be included in this series.... but not sure which tape this would be on? More info.... please!

Talk to you guys later.... Happy Holidays!
~Kev

[Twisted up]

Henderson's Series

I haven't seen Henderson's series yet BUT, he and Couture have been training with the Straight Blast Gym and I think it'll likely be a very good set to own.

Many people talk Sh*t about Henderson's MMA fights but he's a tough, skilled fighter. There is no doubting the need to be skilled in wrestling for NHB effectiveness. There ALSO is no doubting Henderson's ability in wrestling, nor I believe, his ability to teach what he knows.

IMHO, his series will help everyone's essential NHB wrestling fundamentals.


Time will tell!


John

[GQchris]

Striking with takedowns, escapes... I'm thinking some good ole American Boxing with Muay Thai, and Judo...