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I was curious to know what you guys thought of Mixed Martial Arts and if you think its practicle on the street and If sports and martial arts are a good idea to Mix?
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The king of Pancrase and UFC over and over retired champ Bas Rutten used to be a bouncer in Holland. Same techniques, a little variation based on the situation, a street fight is different from a sports fight as in it's 1) unpredictable as to onset...you can't prepare 2) faster and more disorienting ...and 3) multiple variables such as weapons, multiple assailants, and enviorment all play roles.
Once you understand the technique, your cool. So long as you can apply it quickly to something happening out of the blue, and be able to adapt to your surroundings and scenario and use things around you to your advantage.Comment
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Bas was a very effective bouncer. So was Shamrock. Both guys used their pancration training; read the Lion's Den, Shamrock suplexes a 6'6" 300 lb agressor on the concrete. I heard that Bas has fought off multiple attackers (who attacked all at once - unlike Sunday afternoon Kung-fu flix)
MMA is good for empty-hand self defense training, as are its individual components - boxing, muay thai, judo, jujitsu. Even better are reality based self defense programs.
Many MMA schools cross train in weapon arts too.Comment
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I heard all about that from him when I went to Pride in Osaka in late 2001. My kenpo sensei arranged all the MMA competitions on Okinawa so I got to meet a few good MMA fighters (Enson Inoue, Ken Shamrock, Dan "The Beast" Severn, several Lion's Den members, Don "The Predator" Frye, and my favorite fighter of them all, Bas). He has some crazy stories, and man is that guy tough. The running joke is that every time he goes to Japan he gets hit by a car as the front doors to the bars lead right out to the middle of the street.Originally posted by Tom Yum
No joke, we were all out at this one seedy place (my kenpo sensei knew many of them, having been a fight promoter for Pancrase at one time) and Bas went running outside after his student Amir Rahnavardi to go shadow-box with him in the street and WHAM! gets knocked into the air by a taxi cab, rolls over it, and bounces off the ground, making a noise that sounds like a sneaker on a gym floor
The cabbie gets out to see if he's okay and Bas pops up, growling like an animal and starts kicking and punching the back of the cab. The cabbie zoomed away scared as hell, and man was I rolling. He didn't even need to hit up the hospital, guy's tough as nails 
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Some of the articles on this page should help you with this question:
Remember high school? Who were the toughest guys? Football players? Martial arts guys? Wrestlers?
Yeah. The wrestlers.
Isn't it funny how what they do is a total "sport". They don't have any strikes, they don't have any armlocks. Truth is, even when they throw, they aren't allowed to totally lift the guy, and slam him.
So why were the wrestlers so tough? Even the small guys?
Because they competed non-stop with each other, with opponents who were resisting them. They learned to control their opponent's weight.
In BJJ, there is a saying "Position before submission". It is highlighting the fact that one must control his own weight (and the opponent's) before applying a submission.
High school wrestling, a sport, is all about gaining position.
And that is the key thing to learn in groundfighting/grappling.
Just because something is a "mere sport" does not mean it is useless for self defense.
Just because a group of people say that what they are doing is "for the streets" does not mean it will work on the streets.
The truth is, most of the guys who are doing things "for the streets" can't fight a real "sport fighter" to save their lives.
Explore on your own. You'll see.Comment
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Different high school I guess. In my school it was the people that weren't affiliated with any sports. After that were the football players. The wrestlers were just average guys, and the Martial Arts guys were too nice to start any trouble...almost nerd like. The MA guys were actually good role models; they didnt start fights, or pretend that because of what they did that they were any better than anyone else.Remember high school? Who were the toughest guys? Football players? Martial arts guys? Wrestlers?
Have you ever put this to the test? I think you'd find that your theory has no basis in fact. If you play a sport, you get good at that sport, but it is still only sport. Please point me to some facts to back up this statement.The truth is, most of the guys who are doing things "for the streets" can't fight a real "sport fighter" to save their lives.Comment
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Straight Blast gym and other mma people believe mma is the most effective combo for the street and you can check out there websites for articles on why.Comment
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I can point you to the logic that comes out of solid experience.Originally posted by HtTKar
This is Paul Sharp. He's a Chicago LEO. He's done all kinds of tactical training, and he has a great deal of street experience. This is what he has to say about why combat athletics are better for street defense situations than the "deadly combat guys".
This is an NHB coach's comments on "street vs. sport"
And one more, for those that really are curious:
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