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Can some one explain what this consist of?
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Hmm...it depends.
If you are looking at the original "36 moves", they might look like some modified Judo and JiuJitsu.
Sifu Larry Hartsell's JKD Grappling changed over the time from a lot of different approaches like Wrestling, Catch-as-Catch-can, Silat to Shooto and BJJ and Erik Paulson's CSW ... Just to name a few.
It usually describes Grappling for the street or self-defense scenarios, but it consists also of a lot of sport grappling, depending on the instructor.
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have you worked on those 36 moves? has any one . whats the feedback on it,Comment
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My instructer has been taught under Erik Paulson so i think most of our grappling stems from his style. But is that shooto?Comment
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Erik's style is a mixed bag of shooto and BJJ, and other stuff.Comment
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Interesting
I myself would like to know more about these 36 moves for myself and out of curiousity does anyone know where i could get some info on them?Comment
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Guro Dan Inosanto, Sifu Larry Hartsell...
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I was thinking more like a book or websites or articles things of that nature i went to my instructer and he only remebered a litle of it he mainly went with BBJ.Comment
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Taking a look at the book "Tao of Jeet Kune Do" will give you a good idea of what early jkd grappling was. I think Gene Labell said Bruce Lee was more interested in the finishing holds than how to actually get to the point of applying the finishing holds when he was teaching Lee some grappling techniques. This would explain the lack of grappling theory and set ups, escapes, etc. in Lee's notes. I remember reading somewhere that Lee told Hartsell to invetigate Indian wrestling techniques and training, because they had a lot to offer.Comment
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Originally posted by BeingAtOne
Mr. Hartsell came out with his book JKD Entering to Trapping to Grappling, published in 1984 (ISBN 0-86568-051-5) then he and Mr. Tackett worked together on JKD vol.2 Counterattack! Grappling Counters and Reversals which was published in 1987. (ISBN 0-86568-081-7)
Do you Google?
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Well I know Guro Dan Inosanto recently got his bb in BJJ and is in love with that art. If he see's a mat, then he wants to grapple. It's great stuff. So i know the grappling we do consists of bjj, and alot of it comes from silat. There is some of the modern judo stuff but alot of it is from silat and kali. At least that's all i've experienced at warriors way so farOriginally posted by Rank7Comment
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Interesting point about silat if you think Judo is "new". Back in the mid 1960's Donn Draeger himself introduced several judo throws to the founder of Bhakti Negara, Ida Bagus Oka Dinwangkara. These are a few of the Judo techniques you will find in modern Pentjak Silat.
Osoto-gari, osoto-otoshi (-gake, -guruma), Kouchi-gari, Kouchi-gake, Ippon seoi-nage...
Not to mention the shime, atemi and kansetsu waza...Very interesting similarities.Comment
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Whoa whoa whao now. I didn't say judo was new. I said some of the more modern judo techniques. That's differentOriginally posted by Tant01
And yes, there are similarities between judo and Silat, but i doubt they came from one another. The guys on either side probably figured it out for themselves. Im trying to think, pentjak Silat is the mixture of the dutch-indonesian right?Comment
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Olympic style Judo came about in 1964, Goshin Jutsu in 1956 and the Kodokan in 1882.
Heck, it is still "new". It's all relative.... Bhakti Negara silat was started in 1955 according to Draeger it is a mixed martial art developed from earlier styles of pentjak silat, blended with more modern Japanese Ju-jutsu, aikido and karate-do AS WELL AS WESTERN BOXING tactics...Comment
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It consists of 36 original moves but Sifu Larry Hartsell has added a lot to it. He founded the JKD Grappling Association. His books give you a basic idea of JKD Grappling. check it out if you haven't alreadyComment
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