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    whats your opinion on this method? worth it ?worthless? i find the kali trapping fun to learn but has any one executed kali trapping in a combat???

  • #2
    As trapping is considered a by product of hitting A person needs to train and think in that line. If you can hit you will not need to trap. If the arm /hand needs to be removed to be able to hit. you trap. And yes it can work . But like I said you never trap to just trap.. The saying hit hit and hit trap then hit some more.

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    • #3
      Good answer Robert.
      Like what he said, trapping can be very effective when it's needed. If you're trapping just to trap, you could leave openings for the opponent if you miss. Trap when it's needed, and if you're in that close of a range, then start going for elbows, knees, and headbutts

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      • #4
        I only use trapping when someone puts a barrier in front of my attack. Trapping is like changing a tire. You don't just change you tire to show everyone how good you are at changing a tire. You change it when you need to. Same way with trapping, only do it when you have to. The trapping from kali that i've used in sparring is the foot trap. If i manage to get inside i use knee's and the punyo but i've never really used like balintawak type trapping though.

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        • #5
          i take wing chun, and trapping is essentially a by-product of deflecting and hitting. We absorb the hit hit with one of our hand tech. and hit a split second later.

          Trapping occurs afterwards, if u need it at all. The intial deflection and hit will prob. stun the attacker leaving him open.

          The key thing about trapping is u have to be very quick in order to apply it to a resisting opponent, that is y we hit first, and thats also y wing chun isn't that good for point-system fightign tournaments.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by EGstudent
            I only use trapping when someone puts a barrier in front of my attack. Trapping is like changing a tire. You don't just change you tire to show everyone how good you are at changing a tire. You change it when you need to. Same way with trapping, only do it when you have to. The trapping from kali that i've used in sparring is the foot trap. If i manage to get inside i use knee's and the punyo but i've never really used like balintawak type trapping though.
            there's alot of good trapping in kali. Although, im having a difficult time getting the foot trapping down in silat. It's hard being able to sense where he's going to move with my foot

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            • #7
              I use do it off an entry of some kind. To do the foot trap you should put your whole foot on his foot, you should just use the ball of your foot on the opponents toe or instep.Try pushing some gently when you have them in a proper foot trap, they can't go anywhere except down.Pretty cool stuff.

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              • #8
                Ya, what we usually do is put out foot behind his, and point it inwards towards the back of his body, then push.
                Like you said cool stuff

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EGstudent
                  To do the foot trap you should put your whole foot on his foot, you should just use the ball of your foot on the opponents toe or instep.Try pushing some gently when you have them in a proper foot trap, they can't go anywhere except down.Pretty cool stuff.
                  Hey ive never seen this foot trap in action so im just going off what you have said. But if someone was to push the ball of their foot on my toe and the whole of my foot my intitial reaction, when i read ur post, would be to use both my forearms and ram you backwards so you would get off my toe lol. But would my defence towards that work?

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                  • #10
                    Actually as time goes on I prefer clinching to WC trapping. I can't say enough about the Thai clinch,and I'm really interested in the SBG Greco stuff. The last time I trained with my instructor we did alot of knife stuff in that range.
                    Thanks!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hardcorelegend
                      Actually as time goes on I prefer clinching to WC trapping. I can't say enough about the Thai clinch,and I'm really interested in the SBG Greco stuff. The last time I trained with my instructor we did alot of knife stuff in that range.
                      Thanks!
                      I love clinching and plum and all that stuff. But to get into that range, sometime you may have to trap. And WC isn't the only system that teaches trapping.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by m.artist
                        I love clinching and plum and all that stuff. But to get into that range, sometime you may have to trap. And WC isn't the only system that teaches trapping.
                        Good point! I'm not as familier with Silat trapping,all I've done is WC/Jun Fan type or Kali/RAT type stuff. What would be a good book or video source for investigating Silat or anything I might not have seen? I'm trying to keep an open mind,though I have my favorites. I probably won't see my Sifu 'till '06,as I'm recovering from a (completely,as in severed) torn achilles tendon! It's a 5 hour drive as it is...

                        Does anyone do Sil Lim Tao?
                        Don

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hardcorelegend
                          Good point! I'm not as familier with Silat trapping,all I've done is WC/Jun Fan type or Kali/RAT type stuff. What would be a good book or video source for investigating Silat or anything I might not have seen? I'm trying to keep an open mind,though I have my favorites. I probably won't see my Sifu 'till '06,as I'm recovering from a (completely,as in severed) torn achilles tendon! It's a 5 hour drive as it is...

                          Does anyone do Sil Lim Tao?
                          Don
                          yep i do, and too bad about your leg how it happen?

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                          • #14
                            I see. You huh. Oh yeah, we were talking about your leg how it happen.

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                            • #15
                              If i have a proper stance and i have my weight distributed on my front foot, unless you're extremely strong the foot trap should be effective. Usually if i use it i'm also hitting or trying to setup a sector step to sweep or throw.

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