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Buster Douglas vs Iron Mike Tyson definately a haymaker but not a sucker punch. Or was it? Hassim Rachman vs Lennox Lewis 1, definetely a haymaker but not a sucker punch. Now, I forgot who it was, but about two years ago someone was cold cocked after a prize fight. The loser {sore loser} walked over and sucker punched/haymakered the dude after the gloves were removed. He was heavily fined and suspended but a good example of a sucker punch being a haymaker. Someone here has to remember that.
.... The loser {sore loser} walked over and sucker punched/haymakered the dude after the gloves were removed. He was heavily fined and suspended but a good example of a sucker punch being a haymaker. Someone here has to remember that.
Do I remember that? I was on my way home from my last trip to the desert. I took video of the rainstorm we just missed and sat down to watch Friday night fights on the Motel TV (it was Saturday) The loser was embarrased and frustrated the whole fight and lost soundly. After the gloves came off he came over to the winner's corner and just as the hands came out to "congratulate" him..... BOOM!!
Do I remember that? I was on my way home from my last trip to the desert. I took video of the rainstorm we just missed and sat down to watch Friday night fights on the Motel TV (it was Saturday) The loser was embarrased and frustrated the whole fight and lost soundly. After the gloves came off he came over to the winner's corner and just as the hands came out to "congratulate" him..... BOOM!!
Getting hit with taped up hands is probably worse than bare knuckes and definetely worse than a gloved hand.
that's a very interesting perspective.
I think I know where you're going with this...but, I would love it if you would elaborate on this theory of yours a little bit more before I add my $0.02.
that's a very interesting perspective.
I think I know where you're going with this...but, I would love it if you would elaborate on this theory of yours a little bit more before I add my $0.02.
Talking about a single punch as in a sucker punch. I've been hit with all three, gloved, bareknuckle and taped. With one punch most gloves won't do major damage, you need a combination. Most modern day, contemporary martial artists don't have conditioned knuckles and end up hurting their own hand; thus getting hit with a taped hand (imho) does more damage to the person on the receiving end of a single punch such as a sucker punch or haymaker.
my personal opinion would be that, bareknuckles flay and lacerate, whereas gloves allow a boxer to hit harder without risking damage to his hands...hence the tape allows the fighter to hit harder without risking true injury to himself, as well as still having the hard surfaces of his knuckles open enough to have them cut the opponent.
my personal opinion would be that, bareknuckles flay and lacerate, whereas gloves allow a boxer to hit harder without risking damage to his hands...hence the tape allows the fighter to hit harder without risking true injury to himself, as well as still having the hard surfaces of his knuckles open enough to have them cut the opponent.
You ever see old skool martial artist that have conditioned knuckles? The kind that break boards and bricks?
conditioned generally means flatened and calloused knuckles...that hurt you later on...and even so, it's not necessarily the "hardness" of the knuckles, but the force of the blow and the physics behind the break.
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