Basics-Empty Hand

[Chad W. Getz]

I hear some people talk about the basics. Just wondering, what are some opinions about what are the basics?

[HungryWolf21]

1. Basic tools (offensive and defensive)

2. Sprawl and other defenses against takedowns

3. Low line kicks (thigh kicks, groin kicks, etc.)

4. Dominate positions in the clinch (control tie-ups) and on the ground (mount, side mount, guard, etc.)

[HungryWolf21]

[quote]1. Basic tools (offensive and defensive)[quote]

I meant to say Basic boxing tools

[Chop Wisby]

basic + more basics!

every school or style; e.g., shotokan, braz. j-j, jkd, dog bros., etc. all have sets of basics they teach to beginners that come in the door (the first 0-365 days);

any of these sets of basics usually include simple drills, and provide a newbie with a framework on which to build skill;

these basics and drills should be tested/tempered with sparring, to help the student learn application, get confident in the techs., & mentally/functionally separate good stuff from b.s. from conceptual training;

in a grappling-based style, you might teach the new guy some basic safety falls, and teach the basic jab or jabbing kick to clinch to throw/takedown, a few basic control positions, and a couple of ground subs.; just enough to give him a gameplan; then have him put in his mouthpiece, get on the mat & spar a bit, so he can work on his basic gameplan vs. a resisting opponent;

the early student should also learn some very basic, pre-set, "self-defense" techniques/escapes, and drill/drill/drill on those, they will help impart functionality;

basic conceptual/skill drills, such as pummelling, should also be used, these will help the student develop as he advances beyond the first year or two.

(see also my reply on the fma forum)

2 cents from,

Chop Wisby

[Chop Wisby]

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[Chad W. Getz]

IMO,

Basic striking skills(punching and kicking) mechanics and sparring of it.

Basic clinching skills (MT and RG) mechanics and positional sparring.

Basic ground (BJJ/shooto) mechanics and positional sparring of position escaping.

Than go back and add on. The basics are not the "what", but the "how" you train.

[gungfuhero]

The basics are whatever scores consistantly against anyone. There is a sense of simplicity, but infinite room for improvement and honing.

[Stickgrappler]

like in the FMA thread, footwork is also important with respect to basics.

[Underdog]

IMHO, apart from the basics that I have described in the same thread on the FMA section, I have to add EVASIONS and PARRIES.

Think; if your main priority is surviving on the streets, your n°1 worrying is NOT GET HIT.

After all, I may destroy my opponent, but if a lucky punch from his part fracture my teeth or my nose, ultimately I have lost. If given the choice, I rather prefer to be a master in dodging, slipping, sprawling, ducking, bobbing and parrying, than striking.

Obviously, you must play an aggressive game, trying to end the fight quickly and decisively with a flurry of blows, but, your defensive game must be on gear, IMO.

Usually we train defense with back to a wall, headgear and doing 5 3-min rounds of only defense, with the other guy constantly attacking. Very eye opening training...

[Chop Wisby]

footwork

footwork & body-movement are very important, for sure.

i like the drills on DB#2.

to match up w/ the terms i was using before, triangle-stepping drills would be "conceptual," or skill-building, like pummelling drills, etc.

[Dion]

Guess who... hehe!

You are very close in the explaination of what is considered the basics (hey perception only) but like many others it to is slightly out of context...

"I have to add EVASIONS and PARRIES" ...

Why add more of something that is already there ?

I think it would be better said...

"I shall combine the simplisity of both 'attack' and 'defence' into one and call it a 'move' of which will ultimately become the beholder of 'complexity' and 'beauty' ? ... Yeh ill try that 'technique'!"

why attack ?
why defend ?

There are the basics right there, staring back at you

**Never forget to strike, never forget to defend, but, be aware of attack, be aware of defence. Don't treat them seperately, but as one, or one may get jealous of the other being favoured and ultimately lead us to what we call "our failures"!........ just flow...**

our failures: better put... getting a kick in the ass for stopping that which is true.

[Paul Sharp]

We seem to have forgotten the most important "Basic"...

Conditioning.

You can't win it if you ain't in it...

[Dion]

Conditioning is only a matter of ones awareness of it.. to condition... to form something along a set of pre-set instructions... are you listening to yourself ????

Remember YOU were formed *before* you started training... and before you started to be conditioned to *mans* pre-set ideas on how things work... again just a matter of being aware of your "true" condition and keeping it

Freedom is...

[Paul Sharp]

I was talking about physical conditioning. If you gas..., you lose.

Peace,
Paul Sharp

http://www.championjiujitsu.com

[gungfuhero]

I once read that superior [physical] conditioning is the ultimate submission (Frank Shamrock I think). If you don't have the attributes than technique means very little.