short power

[Blue Wave Gym]

I'm not sure about the one inch punch but we cna all agree that we need the ability to have short power so we can fight in a very close environment i. e a crowed bar or night club, I like the idea in kill bill, about short power> open your hand and touch the heavy bag with your finger tips then simotaniously close your fist and strike the bag, also the book ultimate secrets of the martial arts has a section on short power drillls on bags if I'm not mistaken, any other short power drills would be appreciated on this thread

[elementaldrive]

i have focused a lot of effort on the 1 inch blast technique. do isometric resistance excercise. it helps with muscle awareness (to me at least) and through that gives me a better control over the "snapping" of the muscles at the impact.

[chris davis 200]

arts like Xing Yi specialise in short power. but it is quite different to the Wing Chun idea of muscle spasm generated power. It is generally applied with the fist/ contact area already on the opponent so would be classes a a zero inch punch i would guess.

It involves the load and release of tendon power and the transferance of body weight through a connected structure (very simplistic explanation), connected tendonal power is the primary generator not musculature.

to train this tendonal ability isnt so easy and not really something that can be obtained in a gym ... there are also excersises to tone and sort out the tendons for the entire body.

The tendons hold far more potential for retaining and expressing power than the muscles which are prone to tearing under 'non-warmed up' stress.

one of the best methods of connecting tendons in the arms would be standing post practice.

here is a video of 8 standing post postures -

http://www.whitecraneinstitute.com/artsofcombat/videos/8%20zhang%20zhuan.MPG

hold one of these for about 20 mins. your muscles will fail and your tendons will start to take the strain. this strangthening of the tendons will directly effect your ability to deliver strikes from close range.

For those who think this work is easy ... i have a student of UFC fighter Mark Wier in my Xing Yi class currently and the various tendon excersises that we do at the begining are extremely tough for him, due to his reliance on muscular power. and he is a very very physically fit guy.

I have used this 'short power' in door work many times. the ability to fire a strike into someone with enough force to make them think, without having to pull back is a useful skill.

Hope this helps ... although it probably doesnt!

Chris

[Sensei Saki]

I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time.Huh.
arts like Xing Yi specialise in short power is different to the Wing Chun idea of muscle spasm generated power?
different to the Wing Chun idea of muscle spasm generated power is?Are you sure
applied with the fist contact area already on the opponent so would be classes a a zero inch punch i would guess is?applied with the fist contact area already on the opponent so would be classes a a zero inch punch i would guess involves the load and release of tendon power and the transferance of body weight through a connected structure very simplistic explanation connected tendonal power is the primary generator not musculature?Why do you want to do
train this tendonal ability is not so easy and not really something that can be obtained in a gym so much?Where are they?Thanks for the info.One what?Are you giving
video of 8 standing post postures - httpwww dotwhitecraneinstitutedot comartsofcombatvideos8%20zhang%20zhuan
to me?
My brain contains more than 22,000 patterns, but not one that matches your last input.You don't know that for a fact.What does "this" refer to?Your purpose is those who think this work is easy.
How much did it cost?I don't know very many physically fit guy.
Cool.
I have
a lofty goal.What are your goals in life?Why do you hope for this helpsOh. I heard it does.
Oh, you are a poet.

[chris davis 200]

what the hell was that post all about.....................................

[haumana2000]

short power

hey guys im an fma'er in particular, but feel that most systems of Pinoy backgaround have much to offer in this area, due to the neccessity of having to develop enough power in your stick strikes. It's more of a question of perfecting body mechanics. For instance I was taught traise slightly on your rear foot and collapse power in toward your center to develop strong power to cut "thru" an opponent.

[BoarSpear]

Nice post Chris..i agree that holding static postures is a tremendous help in connecting the the body so all of it can be used in an attack. I found that wc tends to use the tricep while hsin yi gets the "push off the ground" from the legs adds that to waist "shake" to deliver shocking power from little to no distance.
Anyone else put out candles to build punching power? we use this as well as daily 1-3 inch strikes to various mediums. I have found both of these made a tremendous difference in hand speed after several months of dedicated practice.

[frank9791]

re

if you practice the zero-inch punch assiduously, any puch of a distance becomes that much better. Also, the taiji literature on "fa jing" power
may give you some good ideas. One secret is to transmit the power and then relax immedaitely, so there is no rebound effect and all of the force of your punch goes into the opponent's body. James Demile did a demonstration on one of his older tapes-- he unleashed a powerful short range blast into his opponent, holding a pad, and knocked the opponent back. The punch was wickedly fast and hard, but it was thrown with a loose fist. The fist had to be loose because James was holding an egg in the hand. The egg did not crack. A punch with only 200 psi of force delivered in fa jing fashion with maximum penetration is better than a standard reverse punch delivered with 800 psi. Most techniques dissipate their energies over a surfaces.
The key to short power is to achieve deep penetration without muscle tension or taking any recoil.

[BoarSpear]

you know where i can get a copy of this tape? i throw pretty good fa jin strikes, i cannot see how you can throw a true fa jin strike and not break the egg with the whipping action alone, nevermind hitting someone hard enough to move them backwards... was this a backfist or a Sun punch?

[frank9791]

re

I sent the tape to a friend,
circa 2000,
with whom I have long since lost contact.
The friend is now deceased, so I cannot get my tape back, and that is the least of how I felt when I learned of his untimely death.

IIRC I paid about $30 for the tape on Bruce Lee's one-inch punch.Sijo Demile went
into details on the video that you did not get
from his famous booklet on the power punch.
You may wish to visit wingchundo.com and see if it is advertised. If not, you can perhaps email Sijo Demile himself, or Sifu Ronald Ogi, and see if they are still selling the tape. And of course there's ebay and amazon sellers.

[frank9791]

pps.

short-range sun punch

[Maidenfan]

I sent the tape to a friend,
circa 2000,
with whom I have long since lost contact.
The friend is now deceased, so I cannot get my tape back, and that is the least of how I felt when I learned of his untimely death.

IIRC I paid about $30 for the tape on Bruce Lee's one-inch punch.Sijo Demile went
into details on the video that you did not get
from his famous booklet on the power punch.
You may wish to visit wingchundo.com and see if it is advertised. If not, you can perhaps email Sijo Demile himself, or Sifu Ronald Ogi, and see if they are still selling the tape. And of course there's ebay and amazon sellers.

Did the video show any slowed down footage(like slowmotion or freeze frame) of the 1 and 3 inch? I have the book and its nice but doesn't show the actual punch..... it shows the starting position and the end position, nothing in between.
I would like to get the video so if anyone spots it on ebay or another site(haven't looked through wingchundo.com yet). I would seriously LOVE to get a copy of this video.

[Freedom]

I once read about a drill where you use a wall bag. You punch from a short distance, with a lot of hip and shoulder rotation. When you hit the bag, you should keep punching through and imagine you are blasting right through the wall. Keep doing this for about 20 seconds (or whatever you want). Its kinda like isometric training.

[robertlee]

Mike I agree that in fighting with hand strikes there is little swing in the punch . But more of a body hip action for power. I had a chance about 25 years ago to work out with a old style boxer. Boxed in the 1930s He Gave me some good ideas and pointers on in fighting. He best said in the old days. A person did not win so much on points in the ring. They won by knock out. Made since. And that when you get in. You both have to defend and hit. So short turning strikes. Allows for power and cover as you do not open the body up to be hit as easy. And being that short distance from each other the body action gives both the speed and power . While a short arm movement would not generate the power as needed.. Made sence then and now. And as far As JKD it relates from the rule of hitting from where the hand postion is. No set up movement. And as the one inche punch concept is meant to demostrate. Power is from the use of the whole body movement Hip action Of forward mass. Not that a inche punch is trained for a useable tool. It trains that Understanding princeples of the body action creates power even at the very shortest distance.

[EvilZombieZ]

Why train for just the one inch punch? For a good example Bruce Lee didnt train just for one specific thing, he trained his entire body for martial arts. If you just train on one then you wont get the results you would if you trained your entire body. If you trained all your muscles you will get the strength to do what you want to do, and how you want to do it.