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  • #16
    Everyone speaks of Bruce Lee, He didn't finish his Art, Dan did. If Bruce was still alive, he would of pulled bits out and put things in, it would of evolved, changed from what it was 30 years ago. What he had when he died, wasn't the finished Art, he was a great Martial Artist but he did things to benefit him, no one else. His system worked for him at that time in his life.

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    • #17
      A person starts with some kind of foundation training. Be it JKD or any art. From there you have to develop your performance skills. Learn how you can use the tools you have No one can expect to win a fight that has more then 1 person fighting you. You just do what you can and hope for the best out come. JKD is far more then just fighting. Sure you are training to be able to fight. BUT mostly you are training to also be a better person so you do not have to fight. In any selfdefence training you learn but freedom is yours when you perform no rules say you do this or that you have foundation training then onto live resistive training and real life actions you make it work or not What works for you works does not mean that for every body. AND JKD Bruce first called it a new style. Then later did not want to limit it to just style But it had a format to its training

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wado_kai
        .....This is what BL knew and tried to bring acroos in JKD!

        Phui... Rhetoric and victim mindset. As long as you think like a victim you will always be a victim.


        If you don't know how to time your attack or counter attack you don't know anything about fighting or martial art... Go back to school.

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        • #19
          Phui!!!

          Originally posted by robertlee
          A person starts with some kind of foundation training. Be it JKD or any art. From there you have to develop your performance skills. Learn how you can use the tools you have No one can expect to win a fight that has more then 1 person fighting you. You just do what you can and hope for the best out come. .....

          .............

          Any art? How about calligraphy? You expect to lose if there's more than one attacker? Then YOU probably will!

          Do what you can? What, roll into a fetal position on the floor and hope someone like ME comes to your aid?


          Go back to school!!

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          • #20
            Tant01, great response. If they give up before they even start, they will be victims all of their lives. I think we think along the same lines.

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            • #21
              Yes...

              Originally posted by wado_kai
              ......can i ask, have u ever been stabbed??? do you practise any of this in class??

              .......!

              Yes, don't you? Usually I tell people to arm themselves and train REALISTICALLY with the weapon they chose to carry every day. I tell them to KNOW THE LAWS regarding use of force but YOU would probably be killed by your own weapon.... Don't fight anyone, don't go out of your home, stay away from people...A little girl with NO training could kick your ass...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Escrima Jim
                Tant01, great response. If they give up before they even start, they will be victims all of their lives. I think we think along the same lines.

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                Tell me what you think?


                Interesting. (I think) Eskrima is about making bad people bleed, less about play.
                Eskrima Matador? No warning cuts, no blocking. Every cut to cause complete disfunction, trauma or death...

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                • #23
                  (Wado...) I must give you credit for being honest with yourself and others about your abilities! THAT's a good start! Now, go fight!! Practice and learn. Don't give up!


                  "The essence of self-defense is the ability to defend oneself against an attacker using any and all necessary violence of action to end the threat against ones' life. Any weapon is just a tool that we use in defending ourselves. Whether one uses their own body, a knife or a gun to defend themselves, the principle remains the same: that to survive an attack on your life, one must realistically train and be honest with oneself about their self-defense skills."

                  Michael Van Blaricum

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tant01
                    .............

                    Any art? How about calligraphy? You expect to lose if there's more than one attacker? Then YOU probably will!

                    Do what you can? What, roll into a fetal position on the floor and hope someone like ME comes to your aid?


                    Go back to school!!
                    No you do not expect to lose but when you are fighting more then 1 person And just because you have had some training and you lose was the training supposed to make you win. You do that because you have deturmination and skills that work. Do what you can. Yes thats what you do. Not every body can fight useing each tool they have learned. They use the tools they can use. If in a fight you fight no one tells you to do this or that you do what you can thats what any fighter doesThe person fights the fight so who does what they can do other then that person. I was posting on the subject that this person lost a fight aginst 4 people and JKd did not work for him in that fight. was it JKd or odds was not good 4 aginst 1 Any art any training If you think about it you can only do what you can do its after all the doing that gets it done Now tell me if you was to get in a fight would you do what you could do which is fight back as best you can not worrying about winning the fight but just fighting the fight

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                    • #25
                      escrimajim u completely misunderstand, i said i cud read the punch as soon as the opponent had the intent to throw it, move to counter it before his hand had even moved an inch!! and JKD can never be "finished", when you understand this come back and talk to me . . Focus and timing are mental, the attack what u see is physical, any movement is physical! focus and timing are perceptual which is mental, go and speak to a psychologist on that one! u will get ripped . .

                      tant were do you get the idea i give up before i start?? never wether or not im fightin 5 15 or 20 people i fight as hard as i can(if the running option isnt there)!! i will fight by any means necesary to win, were u fight to score ponts i fight to knock sum1's head clean off!! this is why i became unsuitable for my karate, i felt i was to restraind and held back wen sparring! my advice to anyone who is confronted my a knife is do your best to get the hell away from it, dont try any funny shit block moves, becasue when you know what its like to get stabbed u never wanna feel it again! thats funny tant, a little girl could beat me up, you no what i found out, just the other week my coach described me as "special", why do you think he was so dissapointed when i stopped training just as i was ready to hit the big time! but then again getting stabbed can rock ur faith in the martial arts! i never start fights or look for trouble but for some reason people tend not to pick fights with me if they kno me . .??

                      i think you have very little experience in true fighting experience, u might know three "effective" blocking manoueveres but how many can u say u have pulled off when u have been on a bender and getting attacked? and roblee was tight,EVERY art need a foundation wether it be learning to hold a paintbrush or or how to throw a punch. i do agree with what he is saying however i do wander if these are his own words?? i am sure i have sumthing along they lines before!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by wado_kai
                        just the other week my coach described me as "special"!

                        I have no doubt he did

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                        • #27
                          run away from the blade...

                          Originally posted by wado_kai
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                          tant were do you get the idea i give up before i start?? ..., were u fight to score ponts i fight to knock sum1's head clean off!! this is why i became unsuitable for my karate, ...
                          ... just the other week my coach described me as "special", why do you think he was so dissapointed when i stopped training just as i was ready to hit the big time! but then again getting stabbed can rock ur faith in the martial arts! i never start fights or look for trouble but for some reason people tend not to pick fights with me if they kno me . .??

                          i think you have very little experience in true fighting experience, u might know three "effective" blocking manoueveres but how many can u say u have pulled off when u have been on a bender and getting attacked?....!
                          You quit training, right? You gave up. You lost a fight and lost faith in your art? You got drunk and got your ass kicked and you come here to offer your opinion of JKD? Give me a break!

                          I do not do Karatedo. I do not fight for points.

                          Matbla is "special", judging by your skill with the keyboard I'd say you were special too...

                          Getting stabbed can be a GOOD thing if the REALITY of FIGHTING is different from what you were training for, you learn from it. Or you bleed. I call that a "reality check"... If you're lucky you will recover and heal. I have a friend that wasn't so lucky. He suffered brain damage and had to spend the rest of his life in a bed. Shitting in a bag, being fed through a tube, helping him breath and delivering IV meds...He never spoke or walked or laughed again.

                          I know how to apply the techniques I practice and "blocking" is not the best defense against anything. It saved my life before but I prefer to EVADE!
                          I do not care what you THINK about MY fighting experience.

                          I used to pretend to be drunk just to fight and hurt people... I thought it was BIG FUN to inflict trauma and throw people down hard. And it was... I thought bullies and thugs deserved it. Especially if they were the high kicking egotistical "artist" types. If they bragged about a belt of black it was like asking me to kick their ass... So I did!

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                          • #28
                            Wado,

                            As Tant01 said, you clearly are very special and it must be hard typing with your feet, One word SPELLCHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            If you are so great, special and so really tough for your sparring partners, so tough that you had to GIVE UP training and you can see a punch coming before it has been thrown or even thought about, when were you going to see and react to the knife? Before or after you were stabbed!!!!!!!!


                            Take some advice, If you don't train with weapons you will not stop an attacker with one. The knife attacker will (on pun intended, stab the shit out of you).

                            Train hard, Win don't fight.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by GQchris
                              what would Bruce do in a multiple opponent encounter?
                              He'd get pissed off really quick, seeing that he was a man with a short fuse, took his fighting seriously and become proficient in boxing, taekwondo, and fillipino blade work and dabbled in grappling (after coming to the U.S.)

                              He'd put his skills to work.

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                              • #30
                                Wado Kai, any response to my last post, or have you given up training and answering post's?

                                Train hard, Win easy.

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