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What are peoples opinions on Tommy Carruthers , as many regard him as being of only average skill & knowledge. Others say he is phenomenal like a Bruce Lee No.2.
Many also have noted what he is doing does not look much like JKD a lot of the time :-
http://www.network54.com/Forum/10355...150906761/T.+C.
Or got to Hardcore JKD site forum & few pages in , thread on him and Lamar Davis's opinion.
Gary Dill has also said who trained Tommy Carruthers at one point, his reputation far, far exceeds his skill level, and he does not actually know that much, but tries to pass of he really knows everything. Gary Dill now tells people to avoid training with Tommy Carruthers like the plague.
His reputation is much like Lamar Davis's and many regard him as a 'bigmouth' and of questionable certification/lineage/knowledge. It is well known Tommy has been formally challenged by Ken Shamrock, Rick Young, Mark Mcfann and others. He refused them all, and was said with one of them to be visibly shaking and afraid , whilst being challenged face to face. Ken Shamrock challenged him on the net on his own forum & apparently it was the real Ken Shamrock that did it; Rick Young JKD guy from Scotland went through to Tommy Carruthers place and challenged him - that was where Tommy visibly was shaking & afraid , and backed down . Apparently had been bad mouthing Rick Young , Jeet Kune Do Concepts, Dan Inosanto, etc, Rick took exception to it & paid him a visit (anyone thinking Rick who? he is Dan Inosanto's top Instructor in Europe, and regarded as the best all round martial artist in UK by many). The challenges are not at all surprising, anyone with real big mouth in the martial arts world, will get called on it at somepoint, that is their lookout.
Others say he is great & Bruce Lee No. 2 :-
See parts about Tommy Carruthers lower down.
What are other peoples thoughts on him?
From videoclips, etc I have seen I would say in all honesty he looks limited - fast standing still striking, but when actually moving he suddenly appears less sharp. As others have noted the hands look more like Kenpo fast hand combinations, than JKD. The speed also he is fast obviously but there are many faster, and his fast movements usually are very short techniques, throwing a full technique punch from his body to face or finger jab he is noticeably slower. THe fast short combinations, if you practice them enough you can give the impression you are much faster than you actually are , using short movements & practicing pre-arranged moves over and over. There is also definite telegraphing in a lot of his movements, often masked as he is moving fast, but it is there for sure. He is in good condition for man in mid 40's, so respect! But his physical feats are nothing extraordrinary & many athletes can do them, or exceed them. As for his knowledge level - I heard he was mainly self taught for years and attended few seminars with Dan Inosanto, Paul Vunak, etc before going it alone, then joining up with Gary Dill's JKD association. Then later doing brief training with Jesse Glover and Ted Wong.
Many also have noted what he is doing does not look much like JKD a lot of the time :-
http://www.network54.com/Forum/10355...150906761/T.+C.
Or got to Hardcore JKD site forum & few pages in , thread on him and Lamar Davis's opinion.
Gary Dill has also said who trained Tommy Carruthers at one point, his reputation far, far exceeds his skill level, and he does not actually know that much, but tries to pass of he really knows everything. Gary Dill now tells people to avoid training with Tommy Carruthers like the plague.
His reputation is much like Lamar Davis's and many regard him as a 'bigmouth' and of questionable certification/lineage/knowledge. It is well known Tommy has been formally challenged by Ken Shamrock, Rick Young, Mark Mcfann and others. He refused them all, and was said with one of them to be visibly shaking and afraid , whilst being challenged face to face. Ken Shamrock challenged him on the net on his own forum & apparently it was the real Ken Shamrock that did it; Rick Young JKD guy from Scotland went through to Tommy Carruthers place and challenged him - that was where Tommy visibly was shaking & afraid , and backed down . Apparently had been bad mouthing Rick Young , Jeet Kune Do Concepts, Dan Inosanto, etc, Rick took exception to it & paid him a visit (anyone thinking Rick who? he is Dan Inosanto's top Instructor in Europe, and regarded as the best all round martial artist in UK by many). The challenges are not at all surprising, anyone with real big mouth in the martial arts world, will get called on it at somepoint, that is their lookout.
Others say he is great & Bruce Lee No. 2 :-
See parts about Tommy Carruthers lower down.
What are other peoples thoughts on him?
From videoclips, etc I have seen I would say in all honesty he looks limited - fast standing still striking, but when actually moving he suddenly appears less sharp. As others have noted the hands look more like Kenpo fast hand combinations, than JKD. The speed also he is fast obviously but there are many faster, and his fast movements usually are very short techniques, throwing a full technique punch from his body to face or finger jab he is noticeably slower. THe fast short combinations, if you practice them enough you can give the impression you are much faster than you actually are , using short movements & practicing pre-arranged moves over and over. There is also definite telegraphing in a lot of his movements, often masked as he is moving fast, but it is there for sure. He is in good condition for man in mid 40's, so respect! But his physical feats are nothing extraordrinary & many athletes can do them, or exceed them. As for his knowledge level - I heard he was mainly self taught for years and attended few seminars with Dan Inosanto, Paul Vunak, etc before going it alone, then joining up with Gary Dill's JKD association. Then later doing brief training with Jesse Glover and Ted Wong.
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