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  • #61
    Well said Mike,

    Ash is a well-known troll on other forums.

    On Tommy's former forum he used a lot of funny names like "JKDMaestro", "SammyD.", etc. He was erased and tried to re-register so many times on one single evening that he called the female moderator there names like a teenage cad who was dismissed by his girl. LOL

    On Bax's forum (http://pauljbax.forumco.com/forum~FORUM_ID~30.asp) he used the nickname with something like "Ashtanga", and got the status "Baxtard's ass clown". He then came back as "ReekievonNinjaKeekie", only to be deleted a few weeks later because being such a nutter and troll who attacked Tim Tackett as well as others there.

    Since he's a spineless liar and scandalmonger who posts a lot of shit, he was invited publically by Tommy's students John Conlin to exchange techniques. He pretended to agree, but it became somehow lost in the "Gung Fu cyberspace", as John made his point and then didn't ride any longer on it.

    It's all still in Bax's archive !

    Ash already denied he's the same dude, but English doesn't have to be your native language to recognize the well-known rhetoric, key words, typeface, patterns of argumentation, etc.

    All pretty much the same stuff.

    Funny to those who once made the mistake to argue with him, but it's only a matter of time till he will be banned the next time.

    What does he has to lose on forums? As he's a coward who will never reveal his true identity, he only has to come back under another nickname.

    Regards

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Mike Brewer
      So how about we all recognize that and lay off the nonsense and attacks? Ash is just another nutter, as far as I'm concerned, but our regulars need to be setting the example, not playing the troll game.
      I know...but it is REALLY hard to sit back and try and ignore somebody attacking so many prominent figures in the martial arts and make claims such as Ash did (like how Dan Inosanto caused 30 years of harm to JKD and Sigung Lee's legacy...! C'mon, man...that has got to chap your ass too.)...I mean, he ripped on the whole JKD Concepts group, and made some really sickening statements regarding Guro Dan...

      I know it was probably done in order to get a rise out of somebody, and I guess I got suckered into playing his game. The guy was an asshole. He made a bunch of veiled threats to myself, ju, and Tim McFatridge...and then went on to harass Tim Tackett AND Burton Richardson!!!

      The only way to try and deal with a joker like this is to laugh them off while trying to expose who they are, and, more importantly...what they are.

      I mean, am I right to assume that "regulars" applies to Jubaji (who isn't even a JKD guy...he just smelled BS and tried to expose it) and myself? What course of action did we take to create this problem, aside from engaging in it at all?

      The guy made inflammatory statements directed not only towards an organization I love, but later to myself, and even about my instructor...and then issued what sounded like challenges and threats about expulsion from those groups...the guy was a fucking fvck. I'm sorry...I am really trying to be mature about this, but please try and look at the situation from my perspective also.

      I, believe it or not, really don't want to bring any shame or anything to this forum, which I've come to love...it's members, whom I count as peers and friends, and especially not the Inosanto group nor my instructors...so, how should I have handled the situation?...and please don't tell me it would've been better to sit back and not say anything...because I felt obligated and pained to the point where I had to speak up after seeing the type of insulting and hateful shit he was spouting.

      Mike...I value your opinion and your advice...even if you weren't a moderator here...so, tell me...what did Ju and I do wrong?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Garland View Post
        I am really trying to be mature about this
        Garland, this doesn't work. On other forums I tried it by myself, only to have my words twisted and being considered as "pompous, pseudo intellectual and pretentious" - belongs to his standard arsenal of words he has also used for other people on this forum.

        If your words are twisted anyway, you don't have to be nice any longer, do you?

        I would become constructive and mature about this issue, but as Ash is really what I described in my last posting (http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...084#post235084) and someone who will never give any information about his real identity and agenda, there's no need for efforts toward a proper communication.

        If you be responsive to him, you're only "throwing fish to the seal".

        DON'T TAKE THE GUY ANY SERIOUS, I just comment it because I'm currently away from my job and because I see some people here haven't known him and his 'troll game' yet.

        Regards

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        • #64
          Originally posted by eXcessiveForce View Post
          consider this your final warning.
          I love it when she gets all dominant.

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          • #65
            Well said Mike and I agree with all. I will do my part not to let my emotions get in the way of better post from now on.

            Cheers to everyone!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Garland View Post
              hold up Tom...that's not you, right?
              Nope. I'm the exact opposite; male and f'ugly.

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              • #67
                Ha ha! I'm so glad this forum is sane again! I stopped even reading it for a while because everything was so full of sludge. After all of that nonsense, I just want to thank you guys for maintaining your integrity. If I ever meet you I'll make you cookies or something

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Little Apple View Post
                  Ha ha! I'm so glad this forum is sane again! I stopped even reading it for a while because everything was so full of sludge. After all of that nonsense, I just want to thank you guys for maintaining your integrity. If I ever meet you I'll make you cookies or something
                  Integrity? Us? Me? Naw...
                  no need to lie to kick it.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Little Apple View Post
                    I just want to thank you guys for maintaining your integrity. If I ever meet you I'll make you cookies or something
                    So you bake things?

                    Alright if you're gonna bake something, then I feel obliged to cook something...

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                    • #70
                      Heh, people make me laugh.

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                      • #71
                        Wow! Thank God, someone banned that guy, what a troll... I hope he doesn't just re-register under a new name...

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                        • #72
                          if he does, i'll ban that account too.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Little Apple View Post
                            Heh, people make me laugh.
                            I make people laugh.
                            Usually its when they look at me.


                            I'm sure we'd get along fine.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Little Apple View Post
                              If I ever meet you I'll make you cookies or something
                              will there be weed in them?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by EmptyneSs View Post
                                will there be weed in them?
                                uh...on second thought, I won't post the picture.

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