a message to the martial artists on this forum

[mr goodcat]

clearly a martial art mind is not logic, you do not see literally the messages handed down by master by sage by shogun by what ever. you may be tired of hearing about oh bruce lee did this! bruce lee did that!. when none of this or that really matters. what does, is to understand WHY he did these things and to understand the messages he gave along with them. not to neglect them and look at his amazing physical physique. the only reason he became who he was is because he had the mind, the wisdom to allow him not to be bounded by what everyone else here is bound by. a mold, a set way of doing this that cripples self- expression. bruce lee was a human like any other. he asked himself one day '' how do i express myself, totally and completely?'' he searched for years for this matter, and he developed his character through martial arts. simply by expressing himself. he didnt teach JKD so that his students can beat someone up, but by simply showing them an abstract reality then guiding them through building their character through it totally and completely, becoming whole, jkd became a way to look at things through the mind. there was no action being performed except the action in itself. and to step aside and see what he could get out of it was obsurd to him. his beliefs, and philosophical messages were formed directly from his self expression of his human art. his highest technique become no technicque and ultimately become one through the actions and motions of the art which he performed. thus he liberated himself of his '' self'' so then, there was nothing he was attached to anymore.

[kuk sool won]

yeh because you're not the 50th person to make this post...

[mr goodcat]

yeh because you're not the 50th person to make this post...

im sure im one of the few, besides i read enough threads to realize someone needs ''enlightenment'', oh and i see the pictures people have and some of which are people who perform them here, but a side kick should not be so high that it looks like splits, because it simply looks like it lacks volume ( spacial surroundings), if the person fails to hit his opponent with his mighty splits side kick then it leaves his entire supporting leg and groin exposed and all u need to do is a shin kick to cripple him. its simple, when the opponent expands, you contract, when he contracts you expand, when theres an opportunity, there shouldnt be an ounce of thought to hit, it shoulf hit all by itself. instince

[eXcessiveForce]

LOL, YAY, another person who read the Tao of JKD and wants to enlighten us.


There is at least one person on the forum who trained with Bruce even more who have trained with inosanto and others. So who are you again?

[mr goodcat]

LOL, YAY, another person who read the Tao of JKD and wants to enlighten us.


There is at least one person on the forum who trained with Bruce even more who have trained with inosanto and others. So who are you again?

who am i? oh im just a drifter that knows a lot. mainly. about no mind, since no mind is the right mind, i feel compelled to a life of learning outside the mold. i read the tao te ching and it has enlightened me somewhat, and i have my history with philosophy, but you can call me brian

[mr goodcat]

Mr Goodcat,
No offense, but everyone here has read the same books, and when you show up quoting the Tao of JKD and the Pierre Burton interview, it comes across as somewhat condescending. There are a lot of people here who have spent decades in pursuit of their martial art. As Excessive pointed out, some trained with Bruce Lee himself, and many of us trained with Dan Inosanto, Larry Hartsell, and other first generation students. While it's admirable that you've taken an interest in JKD and you're doing your research, I think you'll find that none of what's written means as much as what's been experienced. In my younger years, I read Bruce Lee's writing like an addiction. And while it was easy to see the wisdom in his words, I can promise you with 100% confidence that you will never understand a syllable of it without experiencing what he said, and when you've done that, you no longer need the words.

I guess what I'm saying is, try and share something a little more substantial than the quotes and phrases copyrighted by the Lee Estate. If you want to earn the respect of this board, share some experiences instead.

martial art is not to be done but felt '' emotional content''. you arent suppose to just do your work outs. you must feel them. in other words your mind should exist in the present, the action being performed but its not an actor, yet an act which performs itself which we want to reach too. i mean to have no thought, it should be done, felt. and nothing more. a hand should come up to block without being cued in the mind to do so. , the right mind is no mind. i dont read often. martial art, like any art is a scientific process, by which we observe, learn, improvise and perform. we act out, then simply we see where it will take us, i meditate, sometimes. but i dont read much, i read the critique of judgement by immanuel kant and spend most of my time thinking and observing life around me to find relations of my thoughts, people often ridicule what they dont understand. by the lee estate? im sorry but these quotes came from me, no i never knew bruce lee in person but i understand him and where he is going with his teachings.

[mr goodcat]

You have confirmed my belief that you are a self-delusional escaped mental patient. My friend, everything you have typed here has been a verbatim reprint of some Bruce Lee quote. You've just lost all support from this forum, and I would hazard a guess that you've lost all support from its moderators as well.

If you want to be Kwai Chiang Caine, go do it to a less educated crowd. Nitwit.

what ever makes you happy. im just here to share my knowledge and to give and get tips, lost all support? as if u willingly give it out to all new members i just joined yesterday buddy. hazard a guess is not the correct way to say it. im heading toward a philosophy major so im not delusional im sorry, i had many talks with buddhist monks and nuns and practiced buddhism for months, so im far from delusional, infact im spiritual, but if calling me delusional makes you happy then so be it. no i dont think im bruce lee, no i never met anyone who knew bruce lee, or his wife or daughter, but i always had a mind similar to his, since many years back, i was always able to control my emotions as well as he, in times when i saw everyone else lose it, my anger is never expressed in public, this my friend is not something learned over night or realized magically after watching some martial art movie but it is a gift, expressing yourself totally and completely and not lieing to yourself, but expressing yourself. now that is very hard to beat. no im not a black belt but i have trained in a dojo before. i quit because i directly saw where styles head you in, the direction you take. under a doctrine of ''permitted and prohibited'' moves, how can you possibly express yourself? you cant, expression comes with freedom, to go about doing it as you please. in the best efficient way, '' anything'' goes. hands, feet, elbow, knee. anything. im not restricted to any set of moves therefore my prcoess of continual growth lies with me.

[eXcessiveForce]

You can't diagnoses a pulled hamstring, but you are going to tell us about martial arts. You aren't a blackbelt, but you will tell us what we need to know.


LMAO.

Well you have balls, if not brains.

[mr goodcat]

You can't diagnoses a pulled hamstring, but you are going to tell us about martial arts. You aren't a blackbelt, but you will tell us what we need to know.


LMAO.

Well you have balls, if not brains.

a black belt is nothing more than a trophy to represent the effort you put into a certain martial art at a dojo. i have what i have to be proud of, i built my counter defence, now i self- train

[Tom Yum]

now i self- train

Do you also self-medicate?

I'm just joking, mr. goodcat.

You're obviously into the JKD concept of absorbing what is usefull.

Belt systems are usefull too in the sense that they require a set of standards to be met before a student can move forward. They aren't useless.

[mr goodcat]

Do you also self-medicate?

I'm just joking, mr. goodcat.

You're obviously into the JKD concept of absorbing what is usefull.

Belt systems are usefull too in the sense that they require a set of standards to be met before a student can move forward. They aren't useless.

never called them useless. i have my belts from tae kwon do. except i lost the purple one

[mr goodcat]

You seem to have lost more than your purple belt...

Never mind. The philosophy major thing explains all I needed to know, except how you can be a major of anything and still not know how punctuation and capitalization works...

are you inferring something about philosophy? if you respect it then fine but if u think philosophers are a bunch of self delusional escaped mental patients as well then why do you practice martial art? dont you know its a philosophy as much as it is an art?

[jubaji]

who am i? oh im just a drifter that knows a lot. mainly. about no mind, since no mind is the right mind, i feel compelled to a life of learning outside the mold. i read the tao te ching and it has enlightened me somewhat, and i have my history with philosophy, but you can call me brian

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[eXcessiveForce]

While I agree in principle that belts are not all that important.


You were asking for help on throwing a side kick. Which is fine, i'm all for people learning how to do things correctly. But many people on the forum have been "Training" for over 20 years, myself included. some have been training 30-40 years. You may feel enlightened but you aren't telling us anything we haven't heard or don't already know.

Some will even disagree with your interpretation. I remember a junior instructor of mine who I had read a book of five rings. This was a mistake, he completely missed the concepts I was trying to get him to gain and misinterpreted many parts because he had not yet learned by doing.

Reading and thinking are good, but they are not a substitute for training and doing.

[eXcessiveForce]

by the way, you post about other people doing side kicks incorrectly, doing them high. You do realize this is a JKD forum don't you. Do you know what a JKD side kick looks like? Hell do you know how to do it? How about a TKD side kick? Kind of hard to enlighten when you don't know the way yourself.

so you want to talk about no mind, or void, fine, we will put aside that those terms are japanese origin for the moment, Bruce talked about hitting with no intention,

You read the Tao Te Ching, great it's a book on Taoism (the way and the power) but it is not specifically a martial arts book. Have you also read the I-Ching? the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, A book of five rings, Sun Tzu's Art of War? The Art of Expressing the Human Body? Hagakure? Even better can you practically apply the principles in the books?

Martial arts is not "thinking of doing"