Five Ways of Attack

[San Soo Sifu]

I asked this question on another forum. I am hoping for a better, more detailed oriented response. (I am NOT looking for *examples* of each of the Five Ways of Attack, I all ready know several examples for each one. I am looking for exactly what the post says; and hopefully, someone who actually *works* the Five Ways of Attack into their class curriculum & class sparring sessions will be able to help out.)

Using the Five Ways of Attack as a template, framework, or outline; can anyone offer suggestions, comments, or ideas regarding drills, skills, training, and/or sparring to effectively bridge the gap, and close the distance at the moment of the initial engagement.

Please feel free to tackle it one way of attack, at a time; or if you feel really motivated to write, then please tackle as many of the Five Ways of Attack as you care to.

I'm looking for useful ideas, and I am hoping for things not to degenerate into flailing arms, or an over glorified game of tag, or standing toe-to-toe beating the crap out of each other. (I hope I am making sense?)

Before anyone asks, these are the Five Ways of Attack.

1) Single Direct Attack (a.k.a. Simple Direct Attack) = SDA
2) Progressive Indirect Attack (PIA)
3) Attack By Combination (ABC)
4) Attack By Drawing (ABD)
5) Hand (or Leg) Immobilization Attack (HIA) or (LIA)

(P.S. If anyone decides to respond to this inquiry, first let me say thank you; and second, please use Western Boxing terminology where possible, because I am not educated with the Wing Chun Kung Fu & Jeet Kune Do blocking / trapping Chinese terminology.)

[Hardball]

Without giving credit to the Tao of Jeet Kune Do you appear to be plagerizing. Try using a footnote or give some credit to the Tao Of Jeet Kune Do.

[San Soo Sifu]

Without giving credit to the Tao of Jeet Kune Do you appear to be plagerizing. Try using a footnote or give some credit to the Tao Of Jeet Kune Do.

Plagerizing, where? I'm at a loss. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

Also, as a side note, there isn't any plagerizing in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, is there? Naw, not at all. (Although to be honest, it isn't Bruce Lee's fault, because his personal notes were published *after* his death.)

Anyway, if you have something useful to suggest as far as drills, skills, training, and/or sparring; then please feel free to *add* to the discussion.

[Hardball]

Plagerizing, where? I'm at a loss. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

You are presenting this material as your own thoughts.

[San Soo Sifu]

The material is my own thoughts. It started in my mind, then I typed it out with my fingers.

Now, if you are saying that I *should* have said something along the lines of...

"Bruce Lee defines for us the Five Ways of Attack as the following..."

...and, then listed the Five Ways of Attack, then maybe I can see your point. However, I shouldn't have to make *your* point for *you*.

Do you have something *useful* to contribute to the *topic* or not? If not, then from here on out, I will completely disregard any further statements from you.

Thank you, and have a nice day!

[Hardball]

I like the Simple angle attack. According to Bruce, the Right Cross is the Heavy Artillery. Actually, I like all of the attacks but I least like attack by immobilzation. I really don't like grappling even though My shodan is in Japanese Jujitsu.

[Hardball]

Attack by immobilization doesn't mean grappling, it's trapping.

That's not my interpretation. (Said with respect)

[wsdddoa012]

response

Well I'll throw in two cents here:

Attack by Immobilization does mean trapping, but you can also go into grappling and control depending...

[ciscodog]

Well in Shorin Ryu we have sets or ipon kumite which is "agreed upon combat". The first set is simple, second is multiple attacks, third is continous or never ends, fourth a breaking complex that is as it sounds all arm, elbow and shoulder breaks and advance sets, you get the picture. Depending on your opponent, you need to adjust to their size, reach etc,. You dont have any thing like these?

[thtackett]

1. SDA/SAA = Best used if you have superior speed and no preparation. Work on this. If not, then it is best used as a stop hit or kick.
2. ABC = Best used after 1st hit has done damage. I.E. after the SDA has landed.
3. PIA = only to be used against a blocker or runner
4. HIA = Do not try to do as you punch, he blocks you trap at the reference point because if you are really hitting (and know how to hit) there will be no connection. Use to cut into his hand attack. I just did a whole DVD on how to use trapping in combat for IKF. It's being edited now.
5. ABD = Used to draw the stop hit.
Tim Tackett

[San Soo Sifu]

Dear Mr. Tackett, thank you sir for your response. Your time and effort are greatly appreciated. Do you have any suggestions for the question asked at the top of this thread, or should I wait for your new book to hit the bookstore shelves, instead? (I'm assuming that you will have some great ideas in it.)

Also, I have the two books by you and Mr. Chris Kent from 1986 & 1988. Will the new, revised editions be something radically different from the originals? Again, thank you.

[thtackett]

The main thing is to work on getting rid of all your preparation and be able to take advantage of your opponent's. We feel that the best drill for that is the hammer principle drill. I am planning on changing a few things in the revised books.
For Example:
1. Making the trapping more efficient
2. Replacing the "jab" with the straight lead punch and how to throw it

[San Soo Sifu]

Launching one's own attack when your opponent is in the middle of his preparation is a beautiful thing. Easier said than done, though.

Me, personally, I have always found knocking someone's teeth out (or trying to) while they are in the middle of their soliloquy on how they are going to kick my ass, seems to have worked pretty good for me, in the past. Most people don't expect a punch to their mouth (or nose), during mid-sentence. It makes them feel "unprepared."

Maybe you could expound on the hammer principle drill? If you have already posted on this before, maybe you could provide a link to the proper thread here? Thank you so much for your time!

[Hardball]

There is a vital spot right below the nose but above the top lip. Try it for a nice "Stop Hit"

[San Soo Sifu]

Yeah, what Hardball said.

It is called the Philtrum, and that is exactly where I target when I say punch someone in the mouth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philtrum

As a side note, I have never had an infection in my fist, due to someone else's dirty, unclean mouth (or teeth). I guess I have just been lucky so far, in that department.