Anyone Practiced This Defense?

[Ghost]

come on guys, lets not fight over lists.

[bodhisattva]

crazy monkey boxing

If you've practice this defense technique how effective was it for you?

It's really handy for giving a student a good solid defensive core right at the start.

From there you build up a classic boxers guard - but they can always fall back on the crazy monkey position if they get mobbed.

It gets criticized a lot by people who think it is the sole way we fight. We don't. Its just the defensive core we fall back to.. And a great way to teach a newbie to keep his head from getting nailed by bombs from a larger opponent.

[TylerJamesMead]

here my 1/2 cents im a sbs guy(kinda) the way aaron little explained it to me when he showed me is that the guy who created it(king i think) says if u use it in a boxing match you wont win but you wont get hurt. aaron uses it as a progression to teach people how to counter punches- if you show a person a pat the first day they may-probably will-paw and cross the center cause theyre afraid of getting hit- after crazy monkey fot a lil while they get comfortable and can move on to the stuff you guys mentioned

[TTEscrima]

The "Crazy Monkey," apart from being a totally ridiculous name for anything,

Except this.

[Tant01]

Perfect TTE... Your timing and delivery are right on the mark. That's CRAZY MONKEY if there is such a thing...

[OldSchool CO]

Why can't I stop watching it??? It's like a moth to a flame....

For crying out loud, I'd fight harder than usual just to KO the guy and shut up that incessant noise!!!

[migo]

I also think it's important to remember that he lost both his fights with Vanderlei. In other words, the tactic you've chosen to illustrate in that clip was a losing strategy in a fight against a guy who used his hands to hit with instead of block with.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. He lost due to knees in the clinch. I remember you catching someone else posting things out of context, and I'm really not clear at all how him losing from getting kneed in the face relates to CM not being particularly effective for dealing with punches in the boxing range. That's like saying suplays aren't any good because Kevin Randleman got kimurad after slamming Fedor.

Also, from the video clips I've seen of Rodney King, CM is just a component, one of many options. He presents it as an option for those who aren't particularly good at boxing (or not good at all). I'm just starting to get some power in my punches that would let me do some damage, but I'm just touching that. Before I could throw but it wasn't any good because it wouldn't make them cover up if they didn't want to. I used CM style covering up to not get knocked down/out by punches before I could close the distance and clinch. There's definitely more than one counter to punches, and not being able to counter punch doesn't mean it's not an effective defense. Having your arms protecting your face like that when you shoot in for a takedown is good to protect against knees, and with level changing you can shoot your arm out to get good penetration (along with the step) while going for a single leg. It might not be the best thing for a good boxer, but it's damn good for a wrestler or BJJer who doesn't have power in his hands.

[Tant01]

The thing that occurs to me about that so called defense to punching is that it COULD be used (or attempting to use it) to destroy his weapons. Peek a boo style elbow blows to his incoming fists?

Anyone?

Yeah, yeah... Keep your guard up! (it's defensive...) Think about aiming your elbows at his fists? (offensive defense)

Ever seen someone run straight into your fist? It's classic straight arm funny.

[TTEscrima]

The thing that occurs to me about that so called defense to punching is that it COULD be used (or attempting to use it) to destroy his weapons. Peek a boo style elbow blows to his incoming fists?

It looks like the classic limb destruction "comb the hair" from Silat to me.

[migo]

I'd want to be damn good if I was trying that. If you get your aim off the punch could be coming straight down the middle. Aiming to take it on your arm seems like a more reliable method of not getting hit in the face.

[TTEscrima]

I'd want to be damn good if I was trying that. If you get your aim off the punch could be coming straight down the middle. Aiming to take it on your arm seems like a more reliable method of not getting hit in the face.

R.A.T. from Paul Vunak.

[migo]

I'm acquainted with the acronym, but not familiar with the content.

[Tant01]

Yeah, what he said...

It looks like the classic limb destruction "comb the hair" from Silat to me.

Damn dude... just give it away, eh?

I try to go for subtle... only a hint of leading. The "defensive" appearance of anything is just an illusion in silat.

So called "Weak counterpart position"

I don't know much about anything... Just a bit of judo, eh?

[TTEscrima]

"Sit and wait" is just not any kind of way to win a fight.

Must behave, can't say I disagree but OMG, I must sit on my hands before I...

[TTEscrima]

Hey, agree or disagree as you like.

I'm 100% in agreement, fight to win, winning fights is done with a good offense not by sitting and waiting to see what develops or hoping the other guy tires, that kind of thinking leads to counting on your friends to show up first.