Video certification

[Davidc316]

I should also add...

I don't want to focus on the negative either and as far as I'm concerned, this particular debate is over.

But I've just re-read my alleged fact list about Dan Inosanto and I'm very curious to know what particular facts you disagree with. The interesting thing about my little list is that most of the more contraversial facts come straight from Dan Inosanto himself! Perhaps some of the "facts" *are* wrong, but I would like to know which particular statements you disagree with. The whole reason that I number them (1 to 17) was cos I had a feeling that someone might take issue and I wanted to give anyone who disagreed the opportunity to be able to make quick reference.

If you want to continue this conversation in private then I'll be happy to tell you where I get my information from (not as a debate, but merely as a good-willed exchange of information).

My email address is info@bruceleecentral.com

David

[akja]

If your talking to me. I base what I say on "everything you've posted." Really your info looks like you read it somewhere and you take it as fact.

[Davidc316]

akja,

Just when we finally seem to be getting a little bit of harmony in here YOU come on and start trying to sneak in as many personal insults as you can!

OK, I may not be a Jeet Kune Do grand master like you... but I am pretty good at reading. It seems that you aren't.

All over my website and all over this forum I have consistantly stressed that I should be considered as a Bruce Lee fan and NOT a Jeet Kune Do expert. I have also stated that my site IS a fan site- nothing more and nothing less.

As for this particular debate, I've already declared myself willing to give sources for where I get my information from and I have invited anyone to point me in the right direction if I am indeed wrong.

TELL ME WHICH PART OF THOSE STATEMENTS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND?????

-David

PS- Don't call me buddy. I am not your buddy.

[Davidc316]

No. I was talking to Terry at that point.

I thought Terry and I were beginning to move things in a more positive direction, but you butted in and set the entire conversation back to square one.

But let me just say,

You're right! I DID read it somewhere and am taking it as fact. Most of the information I read from Black Belt magazine and is taken directly from Dan Inosanto interviews (you can read them online if you want).

I have invited anyone to point me in the right direction and show me which particular facts they disagree with.

If a person responds to me by saying "I think you are wrong because of W, X, Y and Z" then I have nothing but respect for the guy cos not only has he used a rational deductive argument, but he would have taken the time to point me in the right direction.

If, on the other hand, someone responds to me by saying "No thanks, I'd rather just leave it at that" then I respect his decision also and as far as I'm concerned we're all winners for we would have turned our backs on negativity.

But if your response is to simply say "EVERYTHING you've said is wrong" then your contribution to this thread has been reduced to nothing but a meaningless rant. If blind stupidity and insults are all you have to offer then either you are lacking in intelligence or you have given up on the idea of trying to use reason and logic in a fight you can't win.

Which is it?

[akja]

I said from your statements. That you don't seem to know the Who's who in JKD. But that's OK, because your site is about primarily Bruce. But your facts should just be more factual. If I said everything is wrong, then I'm wrong. I should have said your statements are off track.

I'm just reading past your words, between the lines. My impression of you is not bad. You want to draw people to your site and your forum. But for that forum to grow, your site should move away from generic and find a niche.

For instance, my niche, which isn't really a niche but sets me apart is my Sifu did not walk the path of the other Oakland JKD students. He was the senior student. When James Lee died, he continued to teach and the other students came to train with him. They looked up to him. He developed the Macias method from James Lees teachings and expanded upon by Felix Macias Sr. and Felix Jr.

The others got the glory for just being there. But they also became a part of the debate(OJKD vs. JKDC).

My Sifu and Sigung have planted there own seeds and have now grown there own tree. I am some where between a leaf and a branch on that tree.

I think more like a concept practioner and that pushed me away from them. But by the time my site is up, I hope to repair the damage between us.

Apparently Terry knows the heavyweights of JKD. It would be a losing battle to butt heads with him.

[Davidc316]

Ok akja,

My policy on any forum is that I shall respond to positive posts with a positive reaction. Your last post was a little more positve so here goes...

I don't have a problem with anything you've said in your last particular post. So I respect your opinion and I have taken on board what you've said in your last post.

However, throughout all of your posts, I have sensed that you have some kind of grudge with my website. Not only that, but you seem to have some kind of problem with me even being here in this forum because I am (in your eyes) just out to score some hits.

Just to set the record straight, www.bruceleecentral.com is a Bruce Lee fan site- that's all. On that site I don't claim to be a JKD expert and the JKD section is only one of many sections. I don't sell anything, I don't advertise anything and there is not so much as one single pop up advert anywhere on the entire website. There are loads and loads of Bruce Lee fan sites which have "brucelee" included in the domain name. I chose the suffix "central" because I am a keen musician and one of the sites that I modelled bruceleecentral on (design wise) was a musicians website that I regularly visit called "harmonycentral.com".

As far as content goes, I spent much more time putting together the film review pages than I did any other section of the entire website. Infact, more than 50% of my total time and energy spent on the site has been working on the film reviews. Unfortunately (if my site stats are correct) hardly anybody seems to have visited that particular section of the website, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles and I can live with that.

I absolutely accept that I am not a JKD authority of any kind and that's why all over the site I invite anybody (even you!) to come forward and add their own contributions if they wish. Already I've had one or two good people who have came forward and wrote articles for the site, which is great.

As for getting a niche- I think that is a good idea. I was orginally hoping that the niche would be that it would a site where people could remember and appreciate Bruce Lee without getting brainwashed into taking any particular side in the ongoing JKD political wranglings. I also hoped it would be a site where people could talk freely (whichever camp they come from!) without being shot down in flames by either myself or anyone else.

As for my "battle" with Terry. It is not a battle at all! If Terry wants to come forward and rationally explain why I am wrong in the debate earlier, then rather than regarding it as an attack, I would regard it as a great favour. After all, I *want* to understand why seemingly reasonable people feel the way they do about Dan Inosanto. It is in my interests as an evolving human being to learn to see things from different perspectives. Simply saying "you're wrong about everything" doesn't teach me anything. It only breads negativity and makes me want to dig my heals in even more! I have invited Terry to come forward either in public or in private to explain his position in more detail. Terry is free to either take this offer up or leave it, but either way he will still have my respect.

And finally... about me wanting to score hits for my site. You're right! CONGRATULATIONS! Give yourself a pat on the back AND a gold star! But if that is my ONLY reason for being here that I must be even more stupid than you think I am! After all, I'm sure there are more productive ways of advertising a website than spending about 20 hours a week arguing with one or two particular people on one particular forum!!!!

My website was launched on the 7th of Feb and is only one month old. Anyone who knows anything about search engines knows that they take several months before they kick in and start registering websites on their lists.

So, right now my ONLY means of scoring hits is by word of mouth or by link exchanges.

Ok, so I have a signature that says "visit my website...bla bla bla" But lots of people on this very forum have similar signatures. Is that such a great sin???? Why do you have such a problem with me doing it?

-David

[akja]

I don't have a problem with what you do here or at your site. I am in no way an authority either. I thought you came over as an authority with without the "whole" facts. I may be the only one that saw that. I can't speak for anyone else.

Realistically when I see inacuracys I will say something, like with the "Ryu" thing. I happen to had some private lessons from Paul Vunaks vice president of his Progressive Fighting Systems. So it was easy for me to see and inacuracy there.

Don't think I don't like you or have reason to think bad of you. We debate in here and we state our facts.

[Davidc316]

It's been so long since we've talked about the original subject of video certification that I had forgotten what the original theme of our thread was supposed to be! But now that you've brought it up, I'd like to clarify my position on the subject once again.

Let me just say that I have nothing against people who use videos for tuition purposes. I really want to hammer that message home! As a matter of fact, if I see a decent enough tuition video next time I'm in town I may even purchase one for myself!

There is a massive difference between learning from videos and selling videos at sky high rates as part of a so-called "long distance certification" series.

As for Paul Vanuk... like I have said earlier, I know virtually nothing about him, but I'm a quick learner and from the evidence I've been given over the past few days he seems to be a sincere and genuine practitioner who is a worthy of every respect. If I get enough time, I would like to learn more about him in the future. One thing seems certain- his name should not have even got mixed up in this conversation in the first place!

I have other things I'd like to say, but I don't want to post this information on a public forum.

I have spent a great deal of time on this particular thread lately and I really need to draw a line under chapter and move on. To tell you the truth, I think we all do!

I shall not be posting or even checking back on this particular thread again. If you're desperate to continue this conversation with me, then you can always email me.

-David

[ryanhall]

A public forum is not the place for personal feuding. The end.