Stop worshipping Bruce

[lssanjose]

1: respect is all we can give. nothing more nothing less.

2: even bruce didn't wanna be worshipped anyways. Neither did Buddha .

[nogard1980]

hero and god.......I think not. A poineer of todays martial arts and mixed martial arts probably so.

[Lizard]

Wow, I'm funny.

Respect is all we can give. My respect is not given, it must be earned. Bruce had some good ideas on how to hurt people more effeciently, got rid of one stereotype and replaced it with another. That is all.

If you choose to respect him then that's your choice, I can't stop you but surely you can see that some take it too far. Besides "respect is ALL we can give" has a religous smell to it, makes it sound like you want to give more.

I'm suprised people voted for the second option. It forces them to insult themselves in a way.

[Lizard]

And as for the comment of me being on the wrong forum. I'm on the Bruce lee forum so I thin this is the right place, yes just over there I see a group of JKD monks praising and making a sacrifice to Bruce Lee. Hope they don't see me.

[lssanjose]

I say respect, i mean acknowledgement. I'm not saying something like on the lines of idolotry and worship.

[Szczepankiewicz]

I don't worship Bruce.

I worship the Devil Kin from Manchester!

He's as deadly as he is hairless!

[Thai Bri]

You're forgetting the fact I have seen a photo of you! Fatty baldie boy.......

[karateka_101]

A lot of people do worship Bruce Lee. Also, a lot of people just respect him. I believe he is no better than anybody else. Like anybody else, you can learn a lot from him. He did have many good points, but not everything about him was good and I don't agree with all of his ideas. You should not worship Bruce or anyone else, but respect them and concentrate on what you can learn from them.

[Cain]

old, bald, stupid men..

[Nutz]

Originally posted by karateka_101
You should not worship Bruce or anyone else, but respect them and concentrate on what you can learn from them.

That's the most sense I've seen in this thread yet. To be honest I think he should be respected. He went against the grain in advocating people stop classical stuff and look at what really works for them in a fight. That took guts and made him a target of pretty much every classical martial artist of his time. It took a very long time for people (aside from JKD practicioners) to get into the mindset of training all the ranges and focusing what works for a given individual. Hell, look at how the first couple of UFCs were fought. Set stylized systems with very little MMA focus, which is the exact thing BL advocated against 30 years ago. Ask yourselves this: If we didn't have Pride, K1, or the UFC, how many more years would people have gone on doing their classical stuff. Its a point many fail to realize. That's the sort of profound impact Bruce Lee had on the martial arts world.

[M@T]

Originally posted by Lizard

"The reason Bruce didn't fight well known people is because it became dangerous for him to even spar with people without holding back."

He is supposed to be the greatest martial artist ever yet he cant even control himself enough to not hurt anyone.

Doesnt sound very good to me

any martial artist has to have control. I spar with 16 year old girls at my gym but I dont knock them out

[shasan]

k, this is getting a little ridiculous. Instead of people worshipping Bruce Lee as so many are accusing them of doing, all I have seen in the past however many threads is people seriously bashing the guy more than anything.

It's totally gone the other way. Quit it.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

well lizard, i support you 100% about how Bruce Lee shouldn't be worshipped but at least the don't make it a religeon like some people(i read somewhere that people are using "theForce" as a religeon). Or do they......

[delbert]

he was a new animal at the time. his way of thinking should be worshipped not the man himself. he was 20 years ahead of his time. where would mixed martial arts be without the concept. i think credit should given to the pioneer of mixed martial arts.

[RobertG]

Originally posted by delbert
he was a new animal at the time. his way of thinking should be worshipped not the man himself. he was 20 years ahead of his time. where would mixed martial arts be without the concept. i think credit should given to the pioneer of mixed martial arts.

Delbert he was not a pioneer in the mixed martial arts. If you have the stomach for dealing with the likes of Pencode and Domstarr, check out some of the earlier threads on this topic. MMA is an old concept. Briefly, Kajukenbo, which predated Bruce, is a MMA. Judo, which predates Bruce, was a MMA (having combined many different Jujitsu Ryu, which weren't all necessarily grappling only). Donn Draeger, who predated Bruce, cross trained in every martial art he could find long before Bruce. The deThouars were mixing many different styles of Silat independently of Bruce (and the Silat styles are all different enough that mixing them can be considered MMA). I could go on and on.

Bruce's thinking should not be worshipped. His thinking is about 90% Krishnamurti anyway. Go to the source. He didn't innovate mixed martial arts. Popularized, yes. I buy that. Had some interesting thoughts on training methodologies, yes. But worthy of worshipping his thoughts? Not at all.