Stop worshipping Bruce

[huey]

thats a very jungian analogy Adacas. You're totally right. all the religions have the same archetypes. For example , greek mythology had gods and goddesses who expressed individual roles. Like the father, the son, the hero, the shadow and so on and so fourth. Christianity is exactly the same, only it cramms all those roles and ideas into one being : jesus. Unless. of course we are talking about the trinity. Here the father and son are clealry expressed. But christians will never allow a female to retain a higher power. So they use the holy ghost to represent the woman within man. Or in jungian terminolgy the "anima" .

christianity is exactly the same?!?

god created everything, jesus, his son, came to earth and died for the gentiles.
please explain to me how the greek gods are exactly like that.
zeus and his brothers killed their father, chronos, and all the titans (save prometheus, atlas, and the kraken who they put through relentless torture). they did nothing but punish and do what they wanted with the people of earth (mortals) that they didn't create but felt they should mess with anyway cause they were better. to have so many gods is to spend every waking minute praying that these guys don't mess with you. how is that the same?
christians only know the bible and the teachings from the bible if the bible said that the holy ghost was a woman inside a man then that is how it would be taught but since it doesn't say that ...well there ya go. that isn't to say that someone messed with the bible throughout the years (but the fate of that person or persons as it is written is pretty horrible to think of) but christians can only learn what is written, because interpretation is where we all get into trouble

[moe_eubleck]

goodness I have failed again. It must be very convenient to only be able to focus on one particular aspect of my post. I dont hold it against you. It tends to happen from time to time, especially when dealing with such a sticky topic.
The similarities I expressed, between mythology and christianity, are meant to be approached archetypically. You will find that I am not someone who trashes christianity. In fact I find the bible to be a brilliant piece of literature.
To get a better understanding of what similarities I was referring to , or for a defintion of an Archetype altogether, I suggest you do some reading. C.G. Jung 's book " The Archetypes and the Collective Unconcious" would be a good place to start.
So before you decide that I am the antithesis of all you believe in,it would be in your best interests ,to first understand what I was actually saying.

[KARATEMAN]

I think the man is a little overated but the mans martial art is somethimg that changed the martial way the philosophy behind it is ingenius and he should be looked upon as at least a martial arts pioneer

[Tom Yum]

I have to agree Karate guy. Tell us about shao lin gong fu.

People diss it here, but you can allways learn something new.

[Drew Howe]

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[Thai Bri]

Boxers were doing the first two. And many people boxed and wrestled. People were mixing martial arts decades before Bruce Lee also, like W.E. Fairbairn for example.

If Bruce Lee had not been such a big movie star he would not have acheived anything like the influence he has in Martial Arts. Most of us would read his name in the small print, along with the others.

Don't get me wrong. I think the guy was brilliant. But the films gave him an audience that other martial artists didn't have.

[Drew Howe]

Originally posted by Thai Bri
Boxers were doing the first two. And many people boxed and wrestled. People were mixing martial arts decades before Bruce Lee also, like W.E. Fairbairn for example.

If Bruce Lee had not been such a big movie star he would not have acheived anything like the influence he has in Martial Arts. Most of us would read his name in the small print, along with the others.

True, Boxers were doing the impact and full contact training prior to Bruce Lee. Boxing is in fact where Bruce Lee found many of the things he incorporated into his training. However, prior to Bruce Lee most martial artists wouldn't have considered Boxing or Wrestling to be Martial Arts. Still today many people are confused by their classification as such.

In my research I found no one in the US prior to Bruce Lee incorprating western boxing or wrestling into their martial arts instruction. Certainly no one in kung fu, judo or karate was doing this prior to Lee.

Fairbairn may be the only exception to this. And in that case you are right. But, I don't recall Fairbairn having ever taught civilians. At least not in any organized class outside of the military.

[Thai Bri]

Gene Le Bell. Ever heard of him?

[Drew Howe]

Originally posted by Thai Bri
Gene Le Bell. Ever heard of him?

Of course. He was one of the celebrities that regularly trained with Bruce Lee.

[Thai Bri]

Yes. And he was mixing martial arts, as well as wester arts, before Bruce came on the scene.

Some research. Looks to me like you'd already decided on what you wanted to find before you started the research. A common lacking in common sense.

[johnnyada1]

I dont worship bruce but he was strong and he could of kicked anyones ass on this whole f****** site, he still couldnt of punched 1000 times a second thats physically impossible for any human.

[Drew Howe]

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[Drew Howe]

I'd just like to add this. If Bruce Lee wasn't a talented martial arts pioneer, and he was only popular in martial arts circles because he was an actor. Then why don't any of the martial artist/actors that followed Bruce Lee share his same fame and popularity?

Case in point. Black Belt Magazine has stated that their number one selling cover has always been any cover with Bruce Lee on it. Number One seller. The guy as been dead for three decades. There number two selling cover is any cover with the words Jeet Kune Do on it.

Second case. The number one selling martial arts book of all time, Tao of Jeet Kune Do, followed by the Bruce Lee fighting method series. One exception might be Sun Tzu's Art of War. But certianly no other contemporary books has out sold JKD books.

Now, if it was just because Bruce Lee was an actor, how come Norris, Segal, Van Damme and other don't have the same popularity. I hat putting Norris in that category..but he has been around much longer than Bruce Lee was..and yes he is popular...but he doesn't sell like Lee does.

[Thai Bri]

Because Bruce paved the way. Without him bring the genre to the west, they wouldn't have emerged.

Mind you, those films have hardly stood the test of time have they? They are awful!

[Drew Howe]

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