MT:Pinans and SKK

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Pinans and SKK By RevIV - Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:39:55 GMT

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since we were off track on another thread, I would like to start a new thread. The pinans were added to the curriculum through Prof. Cerio. They were then modified by him to fit his style of Kenpo. Then the masters after him who continued to teach modified them even more to suit their understanding of the forms. Very few of these Masters went and studied the forms in their original way and intentions. My question is - besides good concepts that could be found, how many of you are required to know techniques from the Pinans and apply them to your self-defense curriculum for rank? When testing or in class besides working the bunkai, how many of you do reaction drills using the techniques within the form and if you do which ones?
I was busting Matt's chops in another thread because he is a good friend of mine and i know the owner of the school he works for (both were at my wedding) and Matt said he would get rid of some of them when he opens his own school some day. Who else would do the same? These are hard questions to ask people who have been doing it for a long time and like the forms. But in Kempo, how does Shotokan make us more fluid? Some of the teachers i have trained with add a lot of the shotokan forms into their requirements after black belt for further advancement? Would you think this is good or bad.
In Peace
Jesse


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pinan kata as originally taught

I first learned Pinan forms in the 50's. Each pinan was learned, then in addition you learned to do each self defense (or offense) move in the form. Thus the form had relevance and was not, as is often the case today, disassociated. The form being taught, then a totally dis-related series of self defense moves taught. I our school one pinan per belt was the usual rule as I recall.
Also there was a knowledge of the "shadow" form. In each Pinan there is an imagined foe doing "something" and you are responding with a move in the form as you do the form. We would learn the "shadow" form also and practice it as well.
Few people in the US, when I began to teach in '62, had any concept of this type art and so it has dropped out of sight for the most part.
Sunfist