are fly kicks useful for self-defence???

[Hwa Rang]

you guys are looking at fly kicks from the perspective of using them often in self defence. I'm against all the fancy shit, I just want to see if there are some situations that it wouldn't be stupid to use some of the types of fly kicks. I'll admit that it is probably impossible to have them completely untelegraphed.

[Thai Bri]

Maybe if you were attacked by a biiiiiig bird?

[sirmattu]

what is everyones opinion on the practicality of fly kicks in general for a
street fight? i'm referring to those mainly from TKD as i studied this MA in the past.

I practice Wing Chun at the moment but still can see some of the TKD fly kicks that attack 2 opponents at once working in a street fight. I don't want to start
another argument about which art is the best.

i've used flying kicks in a real fight, so dont take all these people's shit. they're just jealous that they can't do flying kicks.

[Hwa Rang]

thanks sirmattu, how can someone even comment about a fly kick if they can't even pull them off, whats the point in commenting?

[Hwa Rang]

HandtoHand: However must not be able to wrap ones hand all the way around one’s back to the front, to know that masturbating the regular way is far more easy, simple and effective.

I guess you call yourself HandtoHand for a different reason? lol

[osopardo]

...However must not be able to wrap ones hand all the way around one’s back to the front, to know that masturbating the regular way is far more easy, simple and effective...

You can make a thousand wise, intelligent, well-informed comments and then ruin it all by saying the only thing anybody will remember...


"Donkey, two words; shut------up."

[Thai Bri]

Why did you ask our opinion? It is obvious to me that you wanted us to say "Yes, they work".

Well they don't. They put you in more danger than the guy you are kicking in a real go. And sirmattu is clearly telling porky pies.

But you carry on and train them. You use them in a real go. After all, someone has to keep nurses in work.

[osopardo]

...You clearly have missed the intellectual value of my statement. Reread it until you see the parallels.

You clearly have missed the intellectual value of my statement. Don't serve me your much-valued and well-informed opinions tainted with your scatological references. You were doing great until you (and I repeat) "said the only thing anybody will ever remember you saying".

Next time, try a little harder, I'm sure you can rise to a higher level. And in the meantime, "Two words; shut------up".

[sherwinc]

Everything in the martial arts is certainly not useful. In fact hardly any of it is.

variations of Flying Kicks are usefull in an actual fights in a Follow-up attacks only..... and it is not recommended in a Primary Attacks........

but, it is a very good Flying Kicks in a Finishing Moves

[osopardo]

... you yourself did post pictures of naked men, in an attempt to (I think) show that "art" really isn't...

It is art. Recognized and accepted as art by many highly respected authorities. Rbt. Mapplethorpe's work is included in the Guggenheim collection, as well as many other private and public collections. His work continues to be studied and exhibited. Bob Stickel's work also falls in the same category; widely published, exhibited and highly regarded in an artistic context. Trust me on this one, it's art.

Anyway, you're focusing only on the negative part of what I said...
I thought it was funny that you were making some very intelligent points, then hung a left turn along the way and started going on about self-administering the ol' RNC.

[Tom Yum]

These chicks don't even know the name of my band
But they're all on me like they wanna hold hands
Cuz once I blow they know that i'll be the man

Good job, my man.

Keep on wearin' that giant clock on the necklace and put your hands in the air like you don't care.

Now on the count of 3, say with me "Yeaaahhh, oooohh, Yeeaaah, Ooooh"

[sherwinc]

Oh I see. So when you've beat the shit out of your opponent and he's about to fall down, instead of knocking him on his ass right then and there you, back up take a running start and hurtle yourself through the air, not only because you want to give him the chance to sidestep and push you but because it looks cool and JCVD and Jackie Chan do it in movies.

Ignorant, haw haw haw haw

Flying Kicks are not done by a running start like those of Karate and Tae Kwon Do running start the flying kick....

in KungFu, it is done directly, or take a one step then flying kick...., the only important thing is that your KungFu moves especially the KungFu flying kicks are not telegraphic to the eye of the opponent.....

Note:
Simple, Direct, and To The Point......

[Damian Mavis]

What is a fly kick? A kick started from 10 meters away where you run and then jump and fly through the air? No not much street value there unless your target isn't looking..... but if all you mean is JUMPING kick then yes of course they have value, it's pretty much the same as doing it without jumping, you don't have to jump up in the air to be jumping, just a couple of milimeters gets the same projection of power and explosiveness.

I still don't understand why people that aren't proficient in certain things actually have an opinion on them.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

[Ikken Hisatsu]

certain attacks, yeah. i think remy bonjasky proved that the flying roundhouse was pretty effective against Carter

[Thai Bri]

What is a fly kick? A kick started from 10 meters away where you run and then jump and fly through the air? No not much street value there unless your target isn't looking..... but if all you mean is JUMPING kick then yes of course they have value, it's pretty much the same as doing it without jumping, you don't have to jump up in the air to be jumping, just a couple of milimeters gets the same projection of power and explosiveness.

I still don't understand why people that aren't proficient in certain things actually have an opinion on them.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

Damian, do you have a view on Morris Danicng as an effective fighting art?