Why do korean styles hate

[Korean Warrior]

You might be shaking your head and wondering what is he talking about.
Well for along time it was field day on Tae kwon do.
Some times it is Kuk Sool Won and even my art Hwa rang do.

It makes us feel the need to bash our own arts. It has made no since to me why people do that. I have seen people who are black belts say that, that art suck and they were black belts in that art.

Maybe you all can clear it up for me

[DVSJ]

You might be shaking your head and wondering what is he talking about.
Well for along time it was field day on Tae kwon do.
Some times it is Kuk Sool Won and even my art Hwa rang do.

It makes us feel the need to bash our own arts. It has made no since to me why people do that. I have seen people who are black belts say that, that art suck and they were black belts in that art.

Maybe you all can clear it up for me

Perhaps,because you're around Korean stylist the majority of the time you will hear the lashings on Korean arts...but people are just like that no matter the style,topic,culture,nationality,etc...to me,my dog is more rational than many humans.Use your outthinking technique...people just can't help but to be ignorant,sorry to say...

[Korean Warrior]

NO the sad thing is that we as martial artist no mater what style are told to for go the ego. I know that is easier said than done. I will put it like this, can one truly claim them self a martial artist without tring to improve every part of them not just the fighting. Because if this all you are about then you have alot of growing up to do.
And I know it sounds easy to say coming from a person on a computer.
It is easy to through jabs at other people that way but that shows not only us but to yourself that you are not as developed as you thought that you were. And need to go back to the drawing board. And relearn what it means to be a martial artist.
No one is perfect I am far from it and I know I have a long way to go.
But I don't feel the need to degrade what I feel is a lesser art just to make myself feel better about myself and my art

[DVSJ]

NO the sad thing is that we as martial artist no mater what style are told to for go the ego. I know that is easier said than done. I will put it like this, can one truly claim them self a martial artist without tring to improve every part of them not just the fighting. Because if this all you are about then you have alot of growing up to do.
And I know it sounds easy to say coming from a person on a computer.
It is easy to through jabs at other people that way but that shows not only us but to yourself that you are not as developed as you thought that you were. And need to go back to the drawing board. And relearn what it means to be a martial artist.
No one is perfect I am far from it and I know I have a long way to go.
But I don't feel the need to degrade what I feel is a lesser art just to make myself feel better about myself and my art

It wuold be great if we all were open minded and and shared your thought on the learning aspect...however,if we all thought alike then maybe GOD would be bored...

[Korean Warrior]

we all thought alike then maybe GOD would be bored...

how true

[eXcessiveForce]

perhaps some are farther long the path than others.

It all comes down to what you want out of your training. some what it for combat, some for fun, some for dicipline others for exercise.

Choose why you study and work towards that goal and don't what worry what other people think. They do it so infrequently that it really isn't worth considering.

[Korean Warrior]

don't what worry what other people think. They do it so infrequently that it really isn't worth considering.

no cooler words were spoken

[Tant01]

Why ask why?

You might be shaking your head and wondering what is he talking about.
Well for along time it was field day on Tae kwon do.
Some times it is Kuk Sool Won and even my art Hwa rang do.

It makes us feel the need to bash our own arts....

I have seen people who are black belts say that...art suck(s) and they were black belts in that art.

Maybe you all can clear it up for me

Five year old blackbelts?

[moogong]

Do you think that Japanese stylist love all Japanese styles? Or all Chinese stylist get along? Or all the BJJ guys get along?? Korean stylist are no different. It's called human nature. There is no way around it and never will be. It is what it is. Enjoy what you are doing and don't worry about who is bashing what.

[Korean Warrior]

Do you think that Japanese stylist love all Japanese styles? Or all Chinese stylist get along? Or all the BJJ guys get along?? Korean stylist are no different. It's called human nature. There is no way around it and never will be. It is what it is. Enjoy what you are doing and don't worry about who is bashing what.

it just seems childish though

[moogong]

It's usually about jealousy and politics and both are childish.

[Korean Warrior]

yep how true

[MADDOG]

As a Korean Martial Artist I have very little respect for my own kind.

The McDojo method of Dojang management is seen the majority of times in the KMA. Kenpo has taken this step also. Very little Japanese schools have adopted the MCDojo doctrine but this is slowly changing.

The Martial Arts have always been a labor of love. A teacher taught, a student learned and the student became the teacher and the process continued. This model had very limited to no finical gain. The Martial Arts in this model is not for everyone. Having a Black belt meant something.

Today’s McDojo, generates large dollars and teaches very little to nothing that resembles a Martial Art. The Martial Arts are for those that can pay. The Black Belt has a price tag and that is all that it is, in a McDojo.

The problem with the KMA, does not matter if you are WTF-ITF- Hapkido – Hweanrg Do and so on – we as a Martial Art community deserve this attack. If you run a McDojo, you earn the right to be question because of your actions. If you are a non McDojo, and you have done nothing to defend the KMA, then you deserve the right to be question because of the lack of action
Ed BArton
An Old American TKD MDK

[Whispers]

I agree with MADDOG, the major problem is instructors sacraficing the integrety of the art for profit. There are a number of practitioners out their that train still follow the old ways and still teach them, but i think that the only way to make taekwon-do better as a whole is for us all to step up our trainng and show that the art is still worth of respect.
When you encounter other practitioners talk with them about how they train, share your experiences and learn what you can from each other. Provide feed back and tell each other what you've found that works and what you've found that doesn't so we can all get better as a whole and break down some of the barriers we've put up between each other.

[tomjfd]

I agree with the part about sacrificing tradition for profit. Black belts in two years and 5 year old black belts are ridiculous. But, I will say this...it isn't what style you take, but how seriously you take your style. If you learn your art well, then learn to use the aspects of that art that fit you personally (your body type, your height, your speed, your power), then any style can be effective. not everyone wil be able to do effective jump, spinning kicks. not everyone will be able to put a forearm smash through a dozen boards. but when you learn to use your specialties quickly and effectively, you will be a force to be reckoned with in any arena or street. THE most important part of ANY art is mindset. If you spend all of your time talking about how great you are, "practicing" (showing off) in front of your friends, and bullying people, you will eventually get knocked on your butt. but, if you follow the true mindset of martial arts and improve yourself quietly and continually, then when some idiot tries to attack you, you respond swiftly, powerfully, and effectively to that challenge.