Going to the H.S. Wrestling Tryouts....

[jubaji]

So, you ready for the new season?

[Bjjexpertise@be]

I"m trying to practice as much as possible with another fellow teammate/buddy of mine. We'd put tape over the bolt part of the door and sneak in after the cheerleaders were done practicing and go a few rounds. It appears my reflexes have gotten a little bit slow from inactivity, but I'm sure that going a few rounds in the morning every day should help.

I also found a new way to take people down. When you are in the over under clinch, you can thrust your arm(the one that's under) deeply and then do a combination of lifting with that arm and pulling downward toward you with the over arm. Any of you tried this or would like to suggest a variation?

[jubaji]

I also found a new way to take people down. When you are in the over under clinch, you can thrust your arm(the one that's under) deeply and then do a combination of lifting with that arm and pulling downward toward you with the over arm. Any of you tried this or would like to suggest a variation?

ooooooooooooooohhhhhhh, better be careful there champ. You're gonna get thrown clear across the room!

[jubaji]

I"m trying to practice as much as possible with another fellow teammate/buddy of mine. We'd put tape over the bolt part of the door and sneak in after the cheerleaders were done practicing and go a few rounds. It appears my reflexes have gotten a little bit slow from inactivity, but I'm sure that going a few rounds in the morning every day should help.

You really should sneak in during the cheerleader practice!

[Bjjexpertise@be]

ooooooooooooooohhhhhhh, better be careful there champ. You're gonna get thrown clear across the room!

Can you tell me why and what is the weakness in doing so?

[jubaji]

Can you tell me why and what is the weakness in doing so?

You are putting him into perfect position to head-and-arm you. If you do this there is a good chance you will have your head taken off at the very least. If your opponent hips in, you are headed for the cheap seats.

If you are in that general position, why not take an ankle pick, drop to a high single, or turn into a high crotch? Why ask for trouble when you have other options?

[Bjjexpertise@be]

You are putting him into perfect position to head-and-arm you. If you do this there is a good chance you will have your head taken off at the very least. If your opponent hips in, you are headed for the cheap seats.

Ok I'll heed your advice and do this no longer.

I would also like to ask you how to do a certain takedown from the double under hooks clinch. It is where you clinch(double underhooks) go to his side, hook his calf, and supposedly( or so I was told) sag your hips into him as you pull him close. The part I don't get is where you are supposed to sag your hips into him. What does this mean, could you explain it to me in better terms? I believe this move is called the Kosoto gaki or the Double underhooks to the outside trip takedown.

[jubaji]

I would also like to ask you how to do a certain takedown from the double under hooks clinch.

Not to avoid your question, but how often are you gonna get double underhooks on someone? Not often. Your time would be better spent drilling stuff from an over-under position.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Good point. But I just found out that a lot of the people I'm competing against for varsity position are pretty fast. So I figured if focusing a lot more work on the clinch position would help me beat them.

Also I'd like to confirm something. When you go for a double leg takedown, you're supposed to 1:Change levels
2: use rear leg to take a step with your front leg
3. Drive with your front leg.

So I would just like to confirm whether or not I could combine steps 1&2 without making me more vulnerable, etc.

[IPON]

Good point. But I just found out that a lot of the people I'm competing against for varsity position are pretty fast. So I figured if focusing a lot more work on the clinch position would help me beat them.

Bjjexpertise@be - How?? if I understand you correctly, fast opponents (especially in the 135 and below class) wont just stay an lock up like the heavier weights. They will use their speed and cardio to their advantage. There is nothing wrong with learning new moves, you should. However, make sure you are grounded in the basics, from you posts it does not sound like you are there yet. Remember, it is strength, cardio, technique and heart that win matches. So if you have not started definitely hit the gym and push iron and start running so you can be ahead of the pack. I know I may sound like a broken record but I am trying to be helpful.

[jubaji]

Good point. But I just found out that a lot of the people I'm competing against for varsity position are pretty fast. So I figured if focusing a lot more work on the clinch position would help me beat them.

That's fine, but you have to be smart about it. Sometimes you work from the tie to set up a leg shot, or just to beat up/slow down/tire out faster guys. I really don't think too many guys are gonna let you get double underhooks unless they are setting you up (remember the head-and-arm?), or they just suck.

[jubaji]

Also I'd like to confirm something. When you go for a double leg takedown, you're supposed to 1:Change levels
2: use rear leg to take a step with your front leg
3. Drive with your front leg.

So I would just like to confirm whether or not I could combine steps 1&2 without making me more vulnerable, etc.

If you are not combining all three you are not doing it right.

[Ahoym8e]

Also I'd like to confirm something. When you go for a double leg takedown, you're supposed to 1:Change levels
2: use rear leg to take a step with your front leg
3. Drive with your front leg.

Sorta....

my double leg:

1. level change
2. "rocking step;" front knee touches ground, back leg steps out to side
3. point hips laterally (can pivot on knee)
4. Drive opponent laterally, steering to mat with head
5. try to pass the legs on the way down to avoid guard
6. work your way up the body to side/cross (or finish with a leg submission if you get an ankle lace)

I may be a spaz though...

[IPON]

Sorta....

my double leg:

1. level change
2. "rocking step;" front knee touches ground, back leg steps out to side
3. point hips laterally (can pivot on knee)
4. Drive opponent laterally, steering to mat with head
5. try to pass the legs on the way down to avoid guard
6. work your way up the body to side/cross (or finish with a leg submission if you get an ankle lace)

I may be a spaz though...

It's Wrestling, no guard no submission. We've worked for almost a year to make him understand that and we are almost there

[IPON]

I really don't think too many guys are gonna let you get double underhooks unless they are setting you up (remember the head-and-arm?), or they just suck.

That's what I am thinking - a throw. I am trying to picture this but I would imagine head lock, hip toss, trip or type suplex. I don't ever remember somone getting double underhooks on me...at least in a match maybe in practice