Going to the H.S. Wrestling Tryouts....

[jubaji]

What is your weight class?

[choylifutrocks]

What Jubaji said, especially with scissors.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

I'm 130 pounds, no idea what weight class that is.

[jubaji]

You'll probably drop 5 pounds or so to compete.

Don't work out with anyone over 150 or under 112 if you can help it

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Why do you say that?

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be
I'm 130 pounds, no idea what weight class that is.

I think (it's been a while) you'll be wrestling 134's. If I was you I'd put on weight in stead of drop it. The guys in your weight class are usually some of the best athletes--little springy freaks. Throw on some muscle, and dominate

[IPON]

Yeah I think the classes are: 115, 122, 129, 135, 140

[jubaji]

Originally posted by choylifutrocks

If I was you I'd put on weight in stead of drop it.

Then he'll be competing with people who are naturally 10-15 pounds heavier than he is. Not a great idea. There is a reason why people cut weight (although I don't advocate young people overdoing it)

[jubaji]

Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be
Why do you say that?

'cause you can 'learn' how to wrestle with much lighter or much heavier people but it will instill in you habits that don't apply to wrestling with people around your true weight. When things get tough you want every advantage and nothing that doesn't serve your goal. But that's just my take on it...

Every now and then for kicks or to work on something, ok, but I just wouldn't make a 'habit' of it!

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by jubaji


Then he'll be competing with people who are naturally 10-15 pounds heavier than he is. Not a great idea. There is a reason why people cut weight (although I don't advocate young people overdoing it)

I can see where you are coming from, but I'll still maintain my position. It's healthier to add rather than drop weight, and the weight class he's in right now is usually a tough one, not that it's bad that it's tough, it's just that he's safer being heavier and healthier, than lighter and malnourished with guys who who energy up the ying yang. If I remember right, although I don't remember the exact weight classes anymore, the tougher weights were 130's, 152's, and 189's. I think it's because there are more people competing at those weights. If i was in his position, I'd dump on some muscle and hit 145's. He can decide for himself where the competition is, and what he wants to do...but unless you've got bodyfat over 8% it's probably not smart to cut weight. If you have BF under 8% don't cut. I wouldn't recommend cutting weight for the lean person. It's just plain unhealthy and will hinder your performance.

[jubaji]

Originally posted by choylifutrocks

I can see where you are coming from, but I'll still maintain my position. It's healthier to add rather than drop weight, and the weight class he's in right now is usually a tough one, not that it's bad that it's tough, it's just that he's safer being heavier and healthier, than lighter and malnourished with guys who who energy up the ying yang. If I remember right, although I don't remember the exact weight classes anymore, the tougher weights were 130's, 152's, and 189's. I think it's because there are more people competing at those weights. If i was in his position, I'd dump on some muscle and hit 145's. He can decide for himself where the competition is, and what he wants to do...but unless you've got bodyfat over 8% it's probably not smart to cut weight. If you have BF under 8% don't cut. I wouldn't recommend cutting weight for the lean person. It's just plain unhealthy and will hinder your performance.

I think we can agree that which is the 'tougher' weight class will depend entirely on who is there, right? Kinda hard to generalize about that without the requisite information.

"malnurishment" is pretty extreme. you're not gonna get malnurished by cutting 5-10 pounds. As far as energy up the yingyang, try pushing around someone 10pounds heavier than you and watch where your energy goes. Hell, that's one of the best ways to wear out an opponent- by putting weight on him. Everyone is unique, but generally speaking people cut weight because there is an advantage to it--certainly not for fun (believe me its not fun!)

But again, I don't think young folks should overdo it.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

update time. Today the coach put two guys in the middle and had them duke it out...without a question one of them was me. Getting my ass handed to me by a second or a third year guy was not my idea of fun but i still had fun(contradicting yes i know ). Well here are my latest problems:
1)I cant takedown without them sprawling.
2)Lack of knowledge on wrestling moves.
3)head pull driving me mad.
4)For some reason i can't sprawl fast enough
5)Goddang i can't fit a takedown in AAAAA

So lil help guys

[jubaji]

Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be
Well here are my latest problems:
1)I cant takedown without them sprawling.
2)Lack of knowledge on wrestling moves.
3)head pull driving me mad.
4)For some reason i can't sprawl fast enough
5)Goddang i can't fit a takedown in AAAAA

So lil help guys

‚Pj You are not setting up the shot sufficiently. They see you coming before you even start to shoot
2) wait
3) Always keep your shoulders and your hips in a verticle line. Always remember--hip/shoulder alignment is key.
4) If you wait until they are moving, you will not react fast enough. You have to read the set up and get a tactile feel for where your opponent is going before he gets going. Kinda like sprinters get a jump on the field by anticipating the starting gun. The danger, of course, is that you will get suckered by a fake. Experience, experience
5) Keep shooting, and you will get one. A good rule of thumb is: you take up to 7 shots to get one takedown. If you keep hammering away, you'll get there (provided the other guy doesn't get you first! )

Right now, your religion should be to work harder on conditioning than anyone else in the room. That will serve you well down the road.

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by jubaji


I think we can agree that which is the 'tougher' weight class will depend entirely on who is there, right? Kinda hard to generalize about that without the requisite information.

My requisite information is that those are highly populated weight classes. Thus, competition is more intense. Which is good, but if you want to wrestle to win, people sometimes get into the weightclass that makes that more easily attainable.

As far as malnourishment, it isn't too harsh. Here is an example of how I think: he says he's fairly thin and 130 lbs. If he has 8-10% body fat, and he burns five or more pounds, that leaves him with rougly 5 to 7% bodyfat left. It is not recommended to have under 8% bodyfat, because it is unhealthy. You need a BF of 2% just to survive, and 12% is the athletic level. 12-8% are optimal level of BF and anything lower could possibly be unhealthy. Women actually lose their menstral cycle usually under 12% BF, I know he's not a woman, it's just an example. So, from my point of view, unless he has extra pudge he can get rid of, cutting weight is not a good idea, especially if he is not experienced with nutrition.

I can see where you are coming from, but this is where I am coming from.

Yeah, I would agree on what weight class the competition will be in at his school depending on who is there, but not against opponent schools. In general there are weight classes that are more populated than the others.

[kid_chocolate]

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Agree with choy. He's young and (probably) still growing. It would be a good time to bulk up somewhat. He doesn't want to retard his growth.