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Basically should I give up a job that pays $70,000 a year for one that pays $28,000. Let's see... hmmmm... thinking.... thinking somemore..... NOOOOOOOTTTTT!
Dumbest thing I've read. Get a fucking clue.
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Dumbest thing I've read. Get a fucking clue.
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I dunno. For $70,000 a year I could get a lot of clues.
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It was more in reference to the 28,000 a year...
The purple belt I train with is 35 dollars for a half hour of private lessons.
The Black belt is 70 per half hour.
We just paid him 300 dollars an hour for a 3 hours seminar....
Not to mention how many people pay the monthly class fees and such.
If you don't think a Black Belt can make 70k a year GuardMaster, you're misguided. It's great that you find chances to tell everyone here what you do and how much you make. WE VERY IMPRESSED.Comment
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Bollocks. Firstly its only a tiny percentage of the population actually into any kind of martial art. And BJJ is hardly the most popular. Secondly, with an ever increasing number of Black Belts, the market share will ge smaller. Thirdly, show me all these big bucks makers beyond the established big names.Comment
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The purple belt I train with is 35 dollars for a half hour of private lessons.Well that is a fair amount of money. But, what is their overhead. How often do they do this in a day/week/month?The Black belt is 70 per half hour.
Sounds a little far-fetched unless he is a big name.We just paid him 300 dollars an hour for a 3 hours seminar....
Well $70,000 is $33.65 every hour for 40 hours/wk. Which translates to $1346/wk or $2692 every paycheque. If BJJ can't pay my bills then I guess training will have to take a backseat.Comment
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Guardmaster, I have a few ideas.
1. Just train bjj 2 or 3 times a week, don't worry about crosstraining unless you are looking to be serious competitor, and that certainly won't be for a few years for you.
2. Train conditioning and some weights in the spare time you have on days you don't train. At your age, you're going to be sore all the time and if you train another art and do conditioning on you own in addition to 3 bjj classes a week, you're going to get hurt or burn out.
3. Don't worry about how advanced you are, just do it because you like it.
Sean Dempsey,
You're purple soon to be brown instructor may not be up to his neck in competitions, but he must devote most of his time to training and teaching. I doubt he could have a 9-5 job in addition to his current activities. I respect and admire anyone who has made purple belt.Comment
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GUARDMASTER:
All these guys who are giving you trouble are JUST JEALOUS! They are mad because the arts they choose take way too long to get a black belt and they DON'T WANT anyone else to acheive the ultimate reward before they do. I know they will be super-pissed and flip out when I tell you this but...
Go to this site:
for an efficient style that can be learned without sacrificing you're whole life.Comment
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Master Roman is the shiznet.Comment
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gregimotis - you're joking. Tell me you're joking.Comment
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Originally posted by Thai Bri
gregimotis - you're joking. Tell me you're joking.
After re-reading my post and considering it, I've decided that no, I am not joking.
Anyone who:
A) declares that they want a black belt and then
B) complains that said black belt takes too much effort
should be shown exactly where to go (pun intended).Comment
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Take a ride on the Santa Fe Ferry....
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BJJ and Money
To Sean Dempsey:
Its clear to me by the responses I've read from the others here that most BJJ blackbelts, unless they are VERY well known and respected are clearly not making $70,000 a year in pure PROFIT like I am right now from my full time career in Information Technology as a Programmer
Even if I did attain a BJJ blackbelt and dedicated my life to it, I wouldn't be a Gracie, a Machado, or (Insert Brand Name BJJ Artist Here)..... I would be a Canadian dude who got his blackbelt from some North American Blackbelt in BJJ. I know a few Blackbelts in BJJ who I have corresponded with about business. Michael Jen comes to name. He told me once that the business is not a lucrative one. There's a lot of overhead. You've got to deal with the likes of rent, heating, and expenses. You've got students coming in a dropping out. Seminars make money, and so do videos but you gotta put a lot of $$$ into that yourself.. go ask ROy harris how much $$$ he invests into the production of his videos. Then ask them what percentage of the videos get pirated... I bet you its over 50%...
I'm not saying the elite don't make it but that represents maybe 1% of all the BLACKBELTS in BJJ. The rest end up living with mommy and daddy cause they can't afford a mortgage.... they live paycheck to paycheck. Even the Gracies were poor as hell in Brazil... but I digress....
The fact is most BJJ blackbelts don't make even close to $30,000 a year, maybe less with the overhead they incurr ESPECIALLY if they have their own schools and teach. I would go out on a limb and say they make $15k-$20k a year!!! And thats the blackbelts!!!! The purples probably make enough to buy there expensive gi's, attend all the wicked seminars, and buys all the videos, books, etc etc which get them to black. The browns probably make what the purples do, and money from teaching class and some seminars. Basically, hmmm, $5-10k a year?
Face it people do BJJ because they love it, not for the $$$.
I am in it for this reason. Don't start talking about it being a lucrative field, when blackbelts in BJJ have personally told me how their basically SURVIVING on it.
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Training BJJ
To Mr Miyagi:
Great Advice.
I have decided to train BJJ 3 times a week. Until I reach blue belt this amount of training is more than enough for progress. Since our classes include 30-45 minutes of grappling this is basically my cardio workout.
I have decided to lift weights 2 times a week. I lift light weights, do 20-30 reps in a non-stop circuit from one exercise to the other. I do a combination of 10 exercises in succession. Rest 1 minute then repeat the 10 exercises. Its pretty brutal, and a great strength/cardio session.
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Re: BJJ and Money
Originally posted by GuardMaster
unless they are VERY well known and respected are clearly not making $70,000 a year in pure PROFIT like I am right now from my full time career in Information Technology as a Programmer
Even if I did attain a BJJ blackbelt and dedicated my life to it, I wouldn't be a Gracie, a Machado, or (Insert Brand Name BJJ Artist Here)..... I would be a Canadian dude who got his blackbelt from some North American Blackbelt in BJJ.
The rest end up living with mommy and daddy cause they can't afford a mortgage....
I would go out on a limb and say they make $15k-$20k a year!!! And thats the blackbelts!!!! The purples probably make enough to buy there expensive gi's, attend all the wicked seminars, and buys all the videos, books, etc etc which get them to black.
Too bad your money can't buy you skill, knowledge, or commitment. Or integrity. Or the ability to make a post without taking potshots at people who don't make as much money as you, or live with their parents, or go to "all the wicked seminars"...
You come around like your job or income matters at all? It doesn't make a lick of difference. I don't see a SINGLE person on these forums talking about how much money they make, let alone keep referring to their job by some canned ITT Tech label, "Information Technology Programmer". Oooooo! I'm a "Submission Grappling Joint Relocator!" And yet you've mentioned your income, 4 times? I don't care how much you make, you can't buy a belt, or my respect, or the respect of ANYONE here.
With your kind of snobbish, arrogant attitude, I suspect you don't garner much respect anywhere. But I guess when you're standing in line at McDonanlds, you probably remind the cashier "listen, I don't want to wait for my McNuggets, I make 70k a year!!!!"
Get in line with the other casual go-nowhere posers. Have fun cashing your 70,000 a year paychecks. As a lower class working schmoe, I don't know how that works, do they just give you a gigantic check at the first of the year? Like Ed McMahon?Comment
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