Something all ground wrestlers should read

[S.Anucha]

This is how you utilize BJJ in the street:

#1 Most street confrontations will start of with some sort of argument like in a bar scene etc. I mean you are not living in iraq or something where you should be worried about being attacks walking down the street by thugs each evening

#2 Since you should have the common sense to see a threat escalating, you should talk your way out of it and walk away. If you can't talk your way out of it you should notice if your dealing with a single opponent or a group of people (i.e. friends)

#3 If it looks like its a single opponent going to ground and utilizing your bjj is quickest way to end the confrontation. You take it to submission, choke or bone breaking joint lock. You don't punch the guy and hope he'll throw a hook back and then shake hands with you and buy you a beer. More than likely he'll then pull out a knife and then my friend your DEAD. This is why stand up fighting is GARBAGE.

#4 If it looks like its a multiple opponent situation you confront the BIGGEST, yes the ALPHA male the BIG talking, SCARY looking, LEADER of the pack. You know why. Because groups of attackers usually form because they're cowards. And when their leader goes down... the team's morale goes down REAL quick.

#5 You teach this ALPHA male a lesson. Sensing a violent confrontation you may have to attack first. Self defense doesn't always mean waiting to be attacked. You may justify attacking first to a jury if you know you are in a bar scene and three skinheads are giving you a hard time, surrounding you, and holding beer bottles in their hands.

#6 You hurt the alpha male. Not with a punch. There's no such thing as a one punch knockout. Your not mike tyson and even he breaks his hand. You choke this guy unconscious, or you take him down and break his arm. His friends have two choices: One ATTACK you , or TWO help their friend. During this decision making process on their behalf you have enough time to "get away".

Even if the friends decide to attack you they just saw their LEADER, the tough alpha male GO DOWN HARD. And cowards , well they don't like to work on their own.

hmmm.... ok, obviously somone who is in for a big surprise when he actually evers gets into a fight.

[S.Anucha]

If you want sufficient ground technique so that you can survive there long enough for you to get out, why not do wrestling instead?

Mate do you like motocross or do you like road racing? are you a DVD man or a VHS man?

I love Thai fighting, why? because it has everything, maybe it doesnt have ground fighting like BJJ but it does deal with every aspect of fighting.

I have fought before, I know that standup fighting and grappling are just parts of fighting, some guys can be good at one and some good at the other. I am in total disagreement with the claim "BJJ must be learned or face defeat", why? because I know no BJJ and being 27 years old and having grown up where I have grown up and been through the fighting phase have very rarely been beaten! That speaks volumes, I havnt been in a fight outside of a controlled environment for sometime now so why worry about shit that is rare in my life?

not knowing BJJ doesnt phase me in the slightest because I know the chances of me fighting some guy trained in BJJ without doing it in MMA competetion is highly unlikely. I dont fight unless I must, I dont drink and I dont mouth to strangers, I am a hermit and soon I will be in Thailand living an even more sechluded lifstyle.

I do though know enough ground technique to get me back on my feet if I ever get Judased, I am confident using my fighting skills and feel that doing it while on my feet is kinda easier and in my opinion, safer.

Now because I compete in Thaiboxing that means a hell of a lot of time goes into training before fights, I am not going to devote a lot of time to something I wont be using. I want to learn Burmese Naban because that seems way more geared towards selfdefense, not to mention the style seems to fit well with Thai fighting. when I have spare time I will study hard at it.

Now I know how this may get up a lot of peoples noses when I dont jump on the BJJ bandwagon but there really is no reason why I should. Grappling is a part of fighting it is not an individual part but it is just a part of it. the style of fighting I train in has sufficient standup grappling, takedown, and trapping techniques not to mention a very simple, powerful and practical way of strike delivery. It does have some ground work but in no way is it to be matched with a superior ground fighting art like BJJ, I know that, that has never been my arguement.

Lots of guys who train in only striking may have not realised that grappling is an important part of fighting or they simply dont fight with grappling rules. with those who didnt know there has always been those who knew.

Mixing an art is a good thing if the art you already do is weak in some areas, Like I will learn as much of Naban as I can when I can but as for everything else Thai fighting is pretty efficient, even Krabi-Krabong has been regarded as having very good knive fighting techniques, I think that Phillipino one is the best..... I dunno, if some guy pulls a knife mate I am running.

there are many ground fighting systems that work. BJJ is the most famous.

my team mate trains in Judo, he says its good and helps him with his standup grappling, we grapple in training, I feel a slight difference in technique but he isnt over powering me. know what I mean. Judo throws are excellent! I love them because they are so bloody similar to the throws we get taught.

Bjjexpertise@be, I love Thai fighting, thats all, I could not live without at least 3 days (minimum) a week training, I could not imagine switching to wrestling, no way! I am learning to read and write Thai language for feck sake! lol, I love visiting the country and I love all things Thai..... To switch to something else is like me changing my religion, I accept the fact if I fight a BJJ or ground wrestling guy in a controlled fight I *may* very well get beat, until I learn more about ground fighting (which I am in no hurry about) then I'll just live with that, that is no problem because I know if there is no ref and no rules this BJJ guy had better get me fast and hard or else he'll be very surprised when I hit him with some hard object, a lot of guys out there are full of gas, the talk from their arse so it doesnt phase me at all. I know if they have never fought they will perform like a wild monkey when they do actually fight.

90% of most people going to martial art schools dont fight. the remaining 10% fight and out the 10% around 5% actually continue to fight. If you dont fight all your talk is in vain, cos if you havnt experienced a real fight, not a sparring session, then you are going to be in for a big surprise when it actually happens. All your skills will be forgotten in times of serious duress, its very rare for a first timer, even guys who have had 3 fights, to remember everything he has been trained let alone fight like a skilled fighter. Some fellas are just natural.