An in-depth psychoanalysis of Joe Manco.

[Ronin]

Prepare for my magnum opus...

[Joe Manco]

Originally posted by Beatle
... Excuse me while I shit myself.

First, you have to pull out the plug.

Yours truly,

Joe

[Sleevesleep]

Hey Joe Joe the one man dog pound. It pains me to set fire to your little egotistical doll house, but Beatle is not me.

It is time you accept that more than a few on here think that you're a complete slob, who suffers from a cripplingly (and presumably terminal) case of permanent adolescence.

Hey actually, some fringe psychologists theorize that homosexuality is a symptom of permanent adolescence.

I've always thought that to be a rather silly theory, but wiith you in mind, I now think there might be some merit to it.

It's funny how you claim to have such little time to spend responding in length to the psycho-analysis, yet instead you obsessively respond to every single post that has to do with it from then on.

Hell, if you take the time to constantly respond to every little slur against you, then you have the time to fukking respond in length otherwise.

So Give it up, Im not Beatle.

No, the reality is, I'm simply a lurker who got sick and tired of watching that big pie hole of yours thrusting forth nonsense, and observing you posing rather pathetically as some maniacal Oscar Wilde/Ted Nungent hybrid.

You're a predictable man who is unable communicate effectively with people in the physical world so you come here where you have the time to construct any personae your little black heart desires.

Here you demand people's attention, anywhere else they can simply walk away.

Unless of course you manage to stuff them somewhere behind your trailer.

And yes, you are homophobic, inhumane, and by all accounts potentially racist. But, hey what the ****, you're some backwoods hick, no surprises or unpredictabilites there.

The problem is you lack the balls to admit it.

All you do on here is look to exploit other people's weaknesses (or as you term it " justlooking for shits and giggles) and overtake them verbally. The minute anyone has ever stood up to you on here, you tuck that trembling little tail of yours right between your vagina.

Do you really expect pepple on here to believe that you regularly train in Jiu-Jitsu or Boxing, or any of the things that you so commonly spout off about on here? You don't train regularly in any of these things because the risk of getting your ass kicked or shown up is much to great of one for you to take. It could leave you emotionally damaged for life.

I'm not one to suggest suicide to a man in need, but it may be your only hope.

So either hang yourself on your granfather's peach tree, or shut the f'ck up!

[Joe Manco]

SleeveSleep/Tez:

All right, f*ckhead, here's your response. I have finally had a respite in cleaning up/bottle-feeding sick pups and will give you the gratis you so desperately are seeking. That and I need to ventilate: Here goes:

You said,
"I have already spent too much time on this sad little creature, but I feel that one last summary of his pathetic tendencies would help someone to avoid the large, unoccupied area that surrounds him."

REALITY CHECK:
You need to ask yourself *why* you feel compelled to spend this time in the first place. The fact is, you are the queer I pegged you for and I shunned you. And so (as with women) infatuation soon turns to resentment, when scorned. And, no, I am surrounded by attention wherever I go. I get calls from all over the world 24/7 and every forum I am a member of I am the center of it. When I go out and party, I am no pouting wallflower of inequities either. I'm the one who leaves with the girl you wish you could get ...

You said,
"The analysis goes as follows:
The subject displays an intense desire to have his presence known amongst the other members of the group. His often vitriolic, and unwavering attempts to arouse the other members on the forum into a heated debate, are signs of a clinically defined egomaniacal/sociopathic personality disorder."

REALITY CHECK:
True. I have a huge ego and it demands ... and gets ... attention. I am also somewhat of a sociopath. I despise "people." You see, there are many "people" in this world, but very few human beings. There are human beings that I cherrish, would kill for, would die for, and would do anything for ... but the rest are little more than upright-walking animals IMO. You would be one of them.

You said,
"The subject frequents the forum almost every day of the week, lending weight to the conclusion that he spends many hours alone with very sparse amounts of physical activity. He appears to live by himself, and is often found expousing generous amounts of information in regards to his own personal belief system, even if not questioned directly about it."

REALITY CHECK:
Yep, come here every few hours to see what's up ... as do you and most of the rest of us. My whole day is physical activity, whereas you are a white worm behind a desk. No one questions me on my fields of expertise, because no on has the RIGHT to question me. This is where I had to b!tch-slap you into line. You originally tried to "tell me" what's what about bulldogs ... all because your collie got killed by one. Like that makes you an expert. What it does is prove you are an impotent, little girl who couldn't handle the situation like a man and take care of business and save your mutt. It also proves your ignorance of the breed. Any f*cking rookie could have saved that collie ... but because you are AN IGNORANT, COWARDLY BLOWHARD you sat there helplessly watching your friend DIE ... because you were not man enough, or knowledgeable enough, to handle the situation. So take your place, son, in the ranks of the cowardly and the impotent and never question me again.


You said,
"The subject often provokes in order to establish the validity of his existence, and the relevancy of his own personal beliefs. It can also be concluded that the fact that the subject lives alone does indeed motivate these factors. He talks extensively about fighting, and the virtues of violent competition, yet exhibits no obvious signs of current involvement in the very activities that he speaks so highly of. His admiration for such competition is thus acted out through violent battles between animals, rather than those that he himself would have to insert himself into, and therefor run the risk of sustaining some degree of physical or emotional harm. In short the subject uses dogs as a tool to act out his own violent, juvenile fantasies, that he himself is either to weak, or fearful to personally engage in."

REALITY CHECK:
I provoke because you sleeping fools NEED provocation to WAKE-UP. You sit there smugly in your loafers thinking you're something but are not man enough to control a dog, or intelligent enough to understand what happened and why. So you do what all idiots do and blame THE BREED ... rather than his stupid owner ... as well as YOURSELF for being a limp-d!ck who couldn't do anything about it. You are also wrong about MY manhood, boy. I was in the pit before I ever had a pit dog. In fact, that's why I chose the breed because I would never buy a candy-a$$ collie like some faggot named Tez did. Nor would I have been so impotent as to stand there like a helpless woman or child and watched it get killed, either.

You said,
"It can be deduced that the subject has difficulties dealing with the opposite sex. He appears to build an emotional wall around himself in order to suppress any attempts at exploiting his own hidden vulnerabilities. He seems to derive very little satisfaction from the emotional intricacies that a personal relationship would provide. He most likely pursues very anonymous fleeting sexual encounters, such as one would find in exchanges with prostitutes or even rape."

REALITY CHECK:
Wrong, pal. I am quite adept with the opposite sex. I do have an emotional wall around myself, however, because of my chosen vocation ... as most women simply can't handle it. But sorry, don't need prostitutes ... I score just fine on the weekends. Yes, I do prefer fleeting exchanges as I do find relationships a hassle w/ my chosen vocation.

You said,
"The subject writes archaeically about personal bravado, and courageous struggle. He appears to speak of these things in a dramatically personal manner, displaying further evidence that he is susceptible to notions of grandeur and intense delusional episodes."

REALITY CHECK:
See, this is you with your delusions. I TRULY DO see tremendous feats of bravery as a matter of vocation and selection of my stock. Meanwhile you mutter "Help!" while your cowardly f*cking cur gets slaughtered by a real dog ... and you the cowardly f*cking owner watches on like a b!tch.

You said,
"On many occasions the subject has written long, emotional posts about extracting his presence from the forum, yet only returns to continue perpetrating the very traits that made him as unpopular as before. One can see that the subject is merely attempting to trudge up sympathy for this self-proclaimed exile, in order to reinforce his own feelings of worth, and relevancy."

REALITY CHECK:
I have done this thrice, in the beginning when I got infuriated by trolls. I was too straight-forward and didn't even consider the idea of trolling. Now, I handle them much better and don't get as riled up. He he he ... now I am a troll

You said,
"The subject speaks highly of his involvement in the underground spectacle of dog fighting. He speaks rather emotionally about his love for pit bulls to the very point of perpetrating artificiality in his description of the loyalty that he gives to these animals. He talks in length about the amount of time he puts into the care of these dogs, yet when provoked about the depravity of such a sport will speak harshly about the very usefulness of these animals. The subject apparently sees animals as a commodity, and like humans, is incapable of seeing beyond their inherent usefulness to himself."

REALITY CHECK:
WTF do you know about loyalty? You mean, the same loyalty that had you sitting there like a coward watching your dog die? I don't see animals as a commodity, but as athletes. Athletes that I create. And they are far more useful than your stone-dead collie.

You said,
"He seems unable to form the profound, unconditional feelings one might develop for another living thing and merely dismisses them as property when they are deemed as having no personal use. This can be seen in his sudden detachment from the dog fighting genre, and his newly focused employment in the wholesale reptile market. The subject apparently deems animals as a commodity, and like humans, can see their existence as having no relevancy other than the degree to which they can perform some desired function. One could easily conclude from the similar statements he has made about people in general, that he harbors the very same feelings for them as well."

REALITY CHECK:
Why should I have uncondtional feelings? That's another way of saying NO STANDARDS. You obviously have no standards, from what I hear about your wife/man, as well as in your breed selection for a dog, but don't criticize me for accepting nothing less than the best in an animal. Who is going to shell out top dollar for a sh!t dog? And as far as worthlessness, I just shelled out $900 for an emergency c-section on a b!tch, plus a spay, so she doesn't do me any good at all. She even caught mastitis and can't even feed her pups, so I have been bottle-feeding them. Is she dead? NO, I am keeping her until I can find her a good home. Therefore, so much for theory of my not having feelings for my dogs. I cannot afford to keep evey worthless dog that pops up, but I will ensure they have a good home. People? Could care less. Human Beings? I'll do what I have to for them.

You said,
"The subject shows obvious signs of being unable to form any significant emotional connection with another living thing, and therefore secludes himself emotionally from the very society, and the very animals that surround him. This can also explain his overtly passionate descriptions of bravery, and gameness that seem to take on an almost mechanical, Nazi-like verbiage. He has shown deficiencies in being able to distinguish human emotion from animal instinct."

REALITY CHECK:
Utter cyber-poppyc*ck. I am so connected to my dogs, and my true friends, that I am not going to even bother addressing your BS. Just know you would hit the floor the second after you said something like this to my face. And if anyone is mechanical, it is YOU. You are an UNcharismatic, cowardly little bookworm who hasn't any leadership skills, nor the guts to stand for anything. You simply ridicule those who do. You have shown deficiencies in being able to distinguish between your IMAGINATION about dogs and my KNOWLEDGE of them. This is why I called you a clown from the start.

You said,
"In conclusion, the subject enjoys comparing the emotional, and the intellectual desires of humans with that of an animal, furthering the conclusion that the subject has inverted his own feelings, and separated his intellectual abilities from that of the human world, and redirected them towards that of the animal world. He displays many signs of sociopathic behavior, and exhibits little regard for the capacity of pain in another living thing."

REALITY CHECK:
Conclusion? You're far from done ranting, clown. I am more in tune with pain and suffering than a robot like you could possibly be. I see it every day, and it is my JOB to look for it. As soon as an animal SHOWS either pain or suffering, it is NOT a bulldog ... so quit envisioning your worthless f*cking collie and picture the bulldog that enjoyed eating his a$$ up. Multiply that street pit x10 and that is what's on my yard. I don't have a ridiculous bleeding heart for curs like you do, I remove them from my life so people like you can stroke their fur like faggots. I want a real dog, not a coward in fur. My intellectual abilities are directed towards my INTERESTS, which is fighting and fighting dogs. Yours are directed towards mental masturbation and thinking your daydreams are reality. This is why, when reality HAPPENED to your cur, you didnt know how to handle it. Because you are nothing more than a mouth-flapper w/ no experience under the pressure of brutal reality which is why you choked like a f*cking child when it happened.

You said,
"The subject is a loner who seems incapable of having civil, progressive debates with others, for it might further undermine his notions of grandeur, and intense thrusts of righteousness. He uses grandiose, ornate language to perpetrate a learned intellectual mentality, (that one can assume is used to combat or balance his own primitive desires and violent inclinations) which is most likely mulled over in order to give it his own strategized effect."

REALITY CHECK:
I am usually a loner, yes. But I have tons of friends and acquaintences, in fact I would bet substantially more than you. I have friends, customers, cohorts, and (yes) fans all over the world and get visitors from all over the country (and sometimes the world) on a weekly basis. I can also be violent. If we ever meet, you will experience this.

You said,
"It can be concluded that the subject lashes out at the very insecurities and inabilities that he himself possesses. Being one that lives alone, and one that feels fearful about displaying compassion towards another living thing, he as well despises, and speaks ill of such things when they exhibited by others."

REALITY CHECK:
Rubbish. I have no fear of compassion. Listen up, coward: don't talk to me of fear. I am not the one who stood there with my thumb up my a$$ watching my dog get killed. If anything of mine gets attacked, be it animal, self, loved one, or a friend that mofo better be for real because f-ing with me is no joke.

You said,
"His neuroses can be described in many ways, and the subject possesses numerous maladjustments within his personality, but a general diagnosis can be given as follows:

The subject suffers from egomaniacal tendencies brought on by his seclusion and emotional inversion from the world around him. He exhibits severely violent thoughts and philosophies that further define his sociopathic tendencies. Is this to say that he will surely act out violently at some point? No, but the subject can just as easily be described as a dormant sociopathic personality, who does have the potential to lash out irrationally when he is no longer able to cope with his own desires for grandeur, and emotional fulfillment. Any further diagnosis would require an in depth look into the subjects childhood, which could shed the most light on the sociopath motivations the subject still possesses at middle age."

REALITY CHECK:
Better violent like I am than cowardly like you. Better to be alone doing what I want to do than married to a b!tch as a closet homosexual, as you are. I am anything but irrational. I know exactly what time it is, and who has what coming to them, good or bad. Everyone has a desire for grandeur. When I present my ideas I get attention. When you present yours you get scoffed at. This is because anyone can tell by your tone and writing style that you are a puff. A non-man. An "intellectual" of pale skin hue and soft heart. And who TF wants to take someone like that seriously? Again, this is why you have resorted to attacking me. You know eveyone pays attention to me, so (since no one notices you in your own right) you have become a parasite on my a$$, just so you could be seen. Hell, I even helped you by introducing your insignificance to the forum. Truly, though, if anyone is sociopathic it is YOU. You have singlemindely stalked me and obsessed over me, whereas I could give a damn about you. If you wouldn't speak to me, I wouldn't even think about you because you do not matter to me ... whereas I obviously matter very much to you.

You said,
"Prescription: The subject needs to get laid without the use of force or currency, and spend less time perpetrating his existence on the Internet.

He should participate in more physical activity.

Other than that, he only needs to keep cleaning up the dog shit, and he just might avoid a future suicide."

REALITY CHECK:
That first sentence was truly funny and I LMAO at it every time I read it. Physical activity? Again, my day is filled with it. Suicide? Nah. Murder maybe ...

But if anyone should spend less time on the internet it would be YOU ... for intiating a post of this magnitude about another man. Like I said, you are a faggot scorned which is the only possible explanation.

Yours truly,

Joe

[Ronin]

Never mind.

This seems like a bad time to enter the fray.

[Ronin]

I do have one question though, for Shirtsleeve:

WTF is "Ted Nungent"?

[Beatle]

Originally posted by Joe Manco
SleeveSleep/Tez:

It also proves your ignorance of the breed. Any f*cking rookie could have saved that collie ... but because you are AN IGNORANT, COWARDLY BLOWHARD you sat there helplessly watching your friend DIE ... because you were not man enough, or knowledgeable enough, to handle the situation. So take your place, son, in the ranks of the cowardly and the impotent and never question me again.

Hey Moron, we're not the same guy. As for the Collie, your memory is leaving you again. I did save my dog, in fact I had to bash the other dog's head with a cricket bat to make it let go. You're so fuking lucky that the archives are not available because the truth speaks for itself.

BTW Your attempted rebuttal is a pile of stinking shit. Sleevesleep is logical and eloquent. Your writings are a mixture of hyperbole/rant/rhetoric & dogma. Worse still, it is boring, flat and unremarkable. I knew you couldn't resist getting into the fray, I also knew you would make a fool of yourself in doing so. Sleevesleep will eat your lunch everytime. I suggest you shut the **** up to avoid any further embarassment, I've had a good laugh at your expense and now it is time to ease up and show some mercy.

One more thing. I know women, and the women I know wouldn't want to be on the same continent as a shrimp-dicked, animal murderer such as yourself. The truth is you haven't been laid in quite a while so quit fanatasizing that you are some kind of stud, I've seen your pic, you're one ugly SOB. I bet the babes are impressed when you bring them back to your shack in the woods at 2am. I can just imagine you guiding some 55 year old bottle-blonde through the Pit Bull shit.

Now go get a job.

[Ronin]

Beatle/Tez:

You have clearly proven your intellectual superiority to Joe Manco/Pit Dog.

The entire Forum applauds your efforts to expose him as a malicious troll. Why, without you, we might never have realized on our own how obnoxious he is!! Bravo! Thank you for bringing your sophisticated British intellect to our sad little southwest American backwater of cyberspace.

Are you done yet?

[Beatle]

Hey Ronin, I thought I told you to **** off.

[Ronin]

You did.

I don't listen very well to assholes.

Just ask Pit Dog!

[Joe Manco]

You said,
Hey Moron, we're not the same guy. As for the Collie, your memory is leaving you again. I did save my dog, in fact I had to bash the other dog's head with a cricket bat to make it let go. You're so fuking lucky that the archives are not available because the truth speaks for itself."

REALITY CHECK:
Why am I lucky? You even possessing a cricket bat proves you to be a faggot, just as does your writing style and focus on me. Your using said bat to attack the pit dog proves your TOTAL IGNORANCE of dog fighting and how to handle it. Instead of calmly handling it like an informed man, and just extracting the bulldog's jaws, you handled it like a panicked b!tch and ran screaming for a weapon. Not only that, but you owned the furry coward instead of the right dog.

You said,
"BTW Your attempted rebuttal is a pile of stinking shit. Sleevesleep is logical and eloquent. Your writings are a mixture of hyperbole/rant/rhetoric & dogma. Worse still, it is boring, flat and unremarkable. I knew you couldn't resist getting into the fray, I also knew you would make a fool of yourself in doing so. Sleevesleep will eat your lunch everytime. I suggest you shut the **** up to avoid any further embarassment, I've had a good laugh at your expense and now it is time to ease up and show some mercy."

REALITY CHECK:
My writing style is right-brained and emotive. Yours is the one that is left brained, dry, and flat. I mean, get real robot. Thought you said you weren't the same guy ... so how'd you know I couldn't resist? Fool? Me? No, that would be you. You think you're smart, but you're fooling nobody. You think you're a leader here, but you're not contributing any ideas to the forum, you're only running your mouth because (again, like a b!tch) your feelings are still hurt from when I told you to blow off. So SleeveSleep/You may think you've "eaten my lunch," but all you have done is wasted my time. Mercy? LOL, you are such a punk.

You said,
"One more thing. I know women, and the women I know wouldn't want to be on the same continent as a shrimp-dicked, animal murderer such as yourself. The truth is you haven't been laid in quite a while so quit fanatasizing that you are some kind of stud, I've seen your pic, you're one ugly SOB. I bet the babes are impressed when you bring them back to your shack in the woods at 2am. I can just imagine you guiding some 55 year old bottle-blonde through the Pit Bull shit. Now go get a job."

REALITY CHECK:
LMAO, that last part was funny. I am sure you do know women ... only because ALL fags associate w/ women as "friends." I am sure you do their hair and nails, as they do yours. Animal murdurer? And who was it that got the bat?

Finally, stop thinking about my dick and my pic. You've seen "a" pic of me ... bald ... you haven't seen me w/ my hair grown out. But one thing's for sure ... you wouldn't have the guts to look me in the eye face-to-face and pop off with this lip of yours in person. You are a weak-kneed "intellectual" with no brutal life experience, and it shows in your writing style and it shows in what you've revealed about yourself.

Your feelings are STILL injured from when I b!tch-slapped you months ago. Such lingering resentment and injury, and the inability to forget about it, is THE HEIGHT of being an over-sensitive, self-absorbed coward.

Men just shrug their shoulders and forget about shit like that. Fags and women seethe. Any ideas about what statement you've been making about yourself with these 9-page attacks?

Yours truly,

Joe

[Sleevesleep]

Dear Joe Maniac,

Not only do you refuse to believe that I am not Beatle, but you just validated every single sentence I previously wrote about you.

Congratulations, you're certified.

Your veterinarian,
Theodore

P.S. Ronin, with all due respect you are looking rather silly now making out with Joe Manco's ass after he railed against you, and achieved nothing less than breaking your spirit. It reeks of "bullied syndrome." You have just discovered your leader. agin I have nothing whatsoever against you, but it is rather painful to watch.

As for who Ted Nu"n"gent is, well, he's Oscar Wilde of course.

[Ronin]

With all due respect Sleevesleep, get a fukkin life man!

Yes, Joe pissed me off, but when he backed off on the personal stuff it was all good. In fact, I have been trolling him for the past few months now, just for laughs. Half the time I agree with him partially and just want to argue. A couple times I actually pissed him off, and thus achieved a measure of satisfaction for the embarrassment he inflicted on me on the Gun Control thread.

You, are obviously just another incarnation of Tez. Who else has it in for Pit Dog? Shimora maybe, but he's not smart enough to do the psychoanalysis. That, and the fact that you're on the same time as Beatle is a dead-giveaway. Both you and "Joe" must have attended the same imp school - you're both pathetic at pretending to be other people. Unlike, say, Mickey Finn, the undisputed master of imping.

Look man, you have some decent things to say on the subject of MMA (remember that stuff?). Stop humping Pit Dog's leg and try some serious posting. It is you who is fast becoming a laughing-stock, not P.D. or I. Pit Dog is a fixture here, and I am becoming one by virtue of my unGodly posting rate. Attacking us (and "arrogant" Americans in general) isn't doing your rep any good.

You are far too smart a guy to be wasting time on these vicious personal exchanges and ad hominem attacks. That is all I am trying to say, and you are flaming me for it. Grow up.

Think about it, "mate".

[Joe Manco]

Originally posted by Ronin
... Stop humping Pit Dog's leg and try some serious posting. It is you who is fast becoming a laughing-stock, not P.D. or I ... You are far too smart a guy to be wasting time on these vicious personal exchanges and ad hominem attacks ...

LMAO, that's exactly what he's trying to do, hump my leg. Agreed, Ronin, any idiot can see that SleepSleve/Tex/Beatle/What'sInsideAFag are one and the same disturbed, obsessed individual. They have the same style and the same pathology regarding their >ahem< hard on for me, so they have given a whole new meaning to both schizophrenia as well as obsession.

You say this clown has intelligence? Perhaps. But none regarding self-awareness. If "the subject" could step outside himself and examine his own hyper-focus on me, he would realize just how much it is HE who makes himself look like a totally vulnerable, wounded schoolchild for being punked out a few months ago by yours truly. So, as elaborate as all of his sqwawking has been ... it is HE who should realize who is the true clown here ... as well as the fact that his own mother would find his very obvious closet homosexuality "rather painful to watch."

The bullseye here wasn't anything he said, it was the simple statement, "Hell hath no fury like that of a faggot scorned." Because, if we cut through all of the rhetoric and bullsh!t, that is exactly what is going on here: the faggot is furious at me and the fact that he was scorned. Simple as that.

Yours truly,

Joe

[Beatle]

One more time. SLEEPSLEEVE AND BEATLE ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON. Although I would be quite happy to take his words as my own.

Ronin, it truly is pathetic so see you be in the only one willing to rim Pit in his time of need. And yes, you are correct, Shit Dog has long been a self-booster, with many screen-names.

To Pit Dog- So, you're going to kick my cyber ass? I'm frikkin shaking.

Now go get a job.