short, fat, stubby, and tight

[squidd]

i just wanted to ask if any of you have encountered a classmate or a student who is so fat, stubby, and inflexible that he or she cannot execute a triangle choke even with the cooperation of the opponent?

the reason i'm asking is that if a vast majority of people say that they haven't seen such a thing, i will give the triangle choke another go the next time i have a chance.

but, if many people say that they have seen such a thing, i won't bother trying until ten or fifteen pounds later. i figure it would be more productive to practice other techniques rather than pressing on with a fruistrating one which, as it turns out, i am physically pre-disposed nogt to be able to do.

many thanks in advance for anyone who can help me on this.

[Eddy]

Nah, keep working on the triangle choke. You may have a hard time getting there, but you will never be able to do it if you just give it up.

Don't postpone something you can start working on today..


cheers.

[kengar]

I agree with Eddy that you just shouldn't give up, but also realize that we are all different and we will fight different. So don't bang yourself up on something that does not work for you. In other words, don't mode yourself around some system, let the system mode around you.

[doubleouch]

Guys with short legs need perfect body positioning to make the triangle work. Make sure your body is at a 90 degree angle to your opponents. your body should line up with the arm that is between your legs. This makes your legs reach farther behind his head and also makes the choke tighter. There are ways of supplimenting the technique with your hands if your legs can't quite close. This may also help. Ask your instructor.

[shadowkiller]

From the topic this was the last thing I was expecting.

[Tom Yum]

From the topic this was the last thing I was expecting.

This is how its done....

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?p=112514#post112514

Whoops!

I mean to answer your question about working the triangle choke, it might help if you pull on his opposing arm to keep his head where it should be. Without flexibilty and lengthy legs, you will have to keep your ptraining partner close to you.

Lets say he's in your guard. Your right leg gets over his left shoulder and your calf is over the back of his neck. Try either pulling your own right leg with your left hand using both hands to pull his arm to keep him close and tight.

[squidd]

thanks to all...

eddy, kengar, double, and tom.

but the sad news is that i have had someone assit me (i.e. help contort everything into position) in putting on the triangle on my partner... and my legs just won't reach. the great thing is, i got closer this time. i should really keep in mind the hip orientation that double pointed out.

again, many thanks and i hope i will be able to bother you guys again soon with yet another of my endless stream of queries.

and shadow, what was it that you were expecting?

[doubleouch]

Oh Well Squidd,
On the plus side when you get high mount you can lay your belly on your opponents face and use all that table muscle to smother your partner. I use it all the time. We gotta use what we have! The open guard is a finesse game and not well suited for big guys. The good part is that big guys often don't have to fight from their backs anyway. They are usually the ones fighting from top side in guard where their weight can be used to great advantage.

[squidd]

sunnuva... I AM NOT ALONE!

Oh Well Squidd,
On the plus side when you get high mount you can lay your belly on your opponents face and use all that table muscle to smother your partner. I use it all the time. We gotta use what we have! The open guard is a finesse game and not well suited for big guys. The good part is that big guys often don't have to fight from their backs anyway. They are usually the ones fighting from top side in guard where their weight can be used to great advantage.

i haven't been into this for a long time but from my experience so far, i would love to fight from the top. and you know what? i'm moving over to vancouver later part of this year and i searched the web for bjj instructors and found marcus soares. and so what? his site says that he espouses fighting from the top.

but then again, i'm probably just making too much of this...