New zealand BJJ competition Sunday 09 May 2004

[wardancer]

Well, he's a brown belt, you are a white belt.

And the stuff you post is historically incorrect

What is historically incorrect?

[wardancer]

Bro,
Like I told you the only BJJ I have done is one class under Douglas at the Newmarket ETK. Perhaps you were there?

I know because I have been around a lil bit and been to different events, what have you done?

BJJ OPEN 1 (only watch, too novice)
BJJ OPEN 2 (participate)
SMACKDOWN III (participate)
BJJ OPEN 3 (participate)
BJJ OPEN 4 (INJURED)
BJJ OPEN 5 (participate)

[wardancer]

Furthermore.
Even with out Pedro teaching there Strikeforce has had several players,
What in your valued experience prevents them being a BJJ team?

They can, you are twisting the issue which was what is the name of the BJJ team?
You did not even know the name of Pedro Team.
Why am I waisting time with you?
Next you gonna say you do not know who is the brazilian top team?
Good night...................

[guardhater]

They can, you are twisting the issue which was what is the name of the BJJ team?
You did not even know the name of Pedro Team.
Why am I waisting time with you?
Next you gonna say you do not know who is the brazilian top team?
Good night...................

I never had an issue with the name of the team, and yes I did know it was Tukaha. I do however have issue with you being contemptuous and saying Strikeforce never has and never will have a BJJ team. I believe that to be a false statement.

You say you are wasting your time with me yet you continually post inaccurate and inflammatory information. I put it to you that I have been more involved with sport grappling in this country and have far more idea than you do. You are a newbie and your four or five competitions do not impress me at all.

I know who BTT are and I am in regular contact with Douglas so I know who BTT-NZ is. Perhaps you should show people on here some courtesy if you wish them to attend shows that your club put on

[guardhater]

I pissed off a few people by promoting my event in a very naive way e.g the only ever BJJ in NZ kind of thing!

Here is an example, and an admission of your own historical incorrectness

[BJJNZ]

What do you know young grass hopper?

Oh dude if only you knew. Grass Hopper, thats a goodie!

The only reason why this thread is due to the Patches:

Wrong, it's a side issue related to your throwaway arrogant statement about Strikeforce.

I pissed off a few people by promoting my event in a very naive way e.g the only ever BJJ in NZ kind of thing!

Wrong, your attitude pissed people off, not your promotion of the event. Remeber I came onto this thread when you posted this little gem....

Why NZ people would follow an Australian leader compare to a Brazilian BJJ BB base in Auckland for BJJ confuses me?

Thats the thing that started this discussion, your swipe at the clubs in NZ not training under your instructor.

The irony is that Geoff still displayed the results on his website.

Yep, so everyone in New Zealand could find them and read them, no irony in that, it's not the issue.

And I still do not understand why I am getting insults from him.
Anyway the dude is gone to sleep.

one of the main problems is you cannont understand half of what is written in this discussion. and I'm awake now.

Since you do not belong to any concerned group, I would suggest for you to get...

I know you think you have issues with me and you know who I am, so I guess shouldn't be suprised when you are dissrespectful to people you don't know.

Let me give you some advice.

Guardhater is a really good guy. He is also an incredible competitor. His history makes your's look worse than you can imagine. And he is very very good on the mat. Even I would have trouble with him. Also he is my friend and your dissrespect towards him is anoying. He is more than capable of fighting his own battles but I would suggest you don't push him. Ok?

[BJJNZ]

God you just don't get it do you. I AM NOT FIGHTING KEN! EVA!

The guys my team mate, he's like a brother to me. or a cousin.. maybe a second cousin.... Anyway we're far to tight to put ourselves in the akward position of fighting each other

This is the best post in this very cold thread.

This is Sarcasm

[BJJNZ]

Talking about ignorance.
I just told you the name of the BJJ team in your own club.
You should thank me for the lesson.
It sounds to me you never rolled with Pedro.

Assumption and arrogance.

Anyway, who else in the thread has more knowledge on this?

Please believe me, Guardhater has more knowledge than anyone else in this thread. Please also be aware BJJ is not the only grappling sport. It hasn't been in NZ very long and there certainly other ways to get good at grappling.

Did you think you could gang up on me and expect me to be nice?

Ok, I know you feel you're being Ganged up on but the fact is that you cannot see when your posts are offending. That has pissed several people off. These are people who have issues with what you write. Shouldn't that tell you something. Also there would be more people questioning your posts if they weren't on a forum with no New Zealand members....

One of the origional issues is that you chose to promote a New Zealand competition on this forum. 1 week before it was on! Your second post in this thread you ask if there are any people from NZ here. Do you remember the response? None! There are better places to promote the competiton. The problem then would be that more people would be having issues with your "views"

[BJJNZ]

Are you guys getting stupid like Geoff?

Sir Gay, don't push your luck.

[Aristeia]

I am surprised.
What do you actually care about the whole open BJJ stuff anyway?
It is not like you do BJJ anway.

You're really making yourself look silly here. Before you make assumptions about people on an internet forum you should really try and find out who they are Guardhater does not train in BJJ. This does not prevent him regularly entering and winning both weight and open divisions at bluebelt level - and beating BTT brown belts in the ring with flying armbars.

[BJJNZ]

and beating BTT brown belts in the ring with flying armbars.

And no it wasn't a fluke. Infact the Brown Belt was told it would happen to him. So he knew it was coming and still couldn't stop it.

[Aristeia]

Anyway, who else in the thread has more knowledge on this?

Wardancer, everyone else on this thread was grappling before Douglas was even in the country. Everyone apart from me, for many many years before Douglas was in town. When did you start?

[Aristeia]

And yes I have taken part in two, and officiated at another one

In what way officiated? I take it you weren't reffing?

[fumanchu]

In what way officiated? I take it you weren't reffing?

Probably cheating the non BTT guys out of points like the other officials

[BJJNZ]

In what way officiated? I take it you weren't reffing?

Time keeper?