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  • #16
    True, BJJ is traced back to Fusen Ryu, which later became Kosen Judo and eventually all integrated to the Kodokan. This IS the pure spring. If you have ever talked with Judo players about training in Japan they tell you that the Japanese Judo model is one of impeccable technique. The Japanese believe that technique will save the day in almost all cases. This attitude has stayed over the centuries...what has not stayed however is the fuedal-era art and legacy of Fusen Ryu. This art gave itself up to the Kodokan and over the years slowly vanished as Judo put more and more emphasis on the Ippon throw.

    Little did the Japanese know that while the art of Fusen Ryu was slipping away in their country, it was flourishing half a world away in Rio. Fusun Ryu/Kosen Judo is Helio's foundation, a foundation based on impeccable technique using the GI.

    To quote Carlos Gracie jr. "The jiu-jitsu my father learned was very japanese in nature and included very strong controls and finishes from the top, the main changes that my uncle helio made were by way of using the guard. Uncle helio completely revolutionized the way the bottom man could defend himself"

    Submission wrestling just is not BJJ and with out that foundation of technique that the gi provides, it will never be as useful to the world of real people who don't down tons of protien shakes and live around the 200lb mark.

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    • #17
      I've heard that one of the strong points of bjj was that little guys can take on ppl that are alot bigger and stronger, is this true or just an old wives tale?
      in other words good technique beats raw power

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dirtynewb
        I've heard that one of the strong points of bjj was that little guys can take on ppl that are alot bigger and stronger, is this true or just an old wives tale?
        in other words good technique beats raw power
        That should be the best attribute of any MA, but yes it certainly applies to BJJ

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        • #19
          Hermosa,
          where did you get that quote?

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