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Lately I've been really been using the spider guard. Once you get the feet on your opponent's bicepts there's just so many options. I usually try for the triangle or armlock first, but if that fails I go for the elevator sweep. Anyone else a fan of the spider guard?
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a bit too advance for me.
But I will try it next time i roll after a failed to a triangle or armlock, a spider sweep sounds as the next step to try -
Personally I find it to be synonimous with an open invitation to stamp on someones bollocks.Comment
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Speaking from personal experience?Originally posted by Thai BriComment
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We all know that Thai Bri always speak from personal experience!Originally posted by osopardoComment
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And in a high pitched voice!Comment
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Spider guard is good. I have also used it to stop punches. Which is a pretty valluable skill in the guard. There are also some good sweeps from the spider guard.Comment
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check out the Tinguinha dvd on the spider guard. An EXCELLENT instructional...
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Newbie question - I've recently been shown butterfly guard. What is spider guard? How are they different?
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Hehe they are the same thing, kind of like how some people say "sidemount" while others say "crossbody".Comment
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Mmmm, no thank you for playing. Spider guard is completely different then butterly. Spider means you have control of the arms, usually a sleeve grab at the wrists, and either your feet, or knees on the biceps. A guy I train with specializes in spider guard, it's pretty damn annoying and hard to pass while wearing a gi. The best way to pass it is free one arm, grab the pant leg with your still trapped arm. Push that leg across his hips and flop down onto him.
Butterfly guard means your opponent has both feet hooked inside your thighs not on your arms. They can grab either collar or arms, and will usually try to stretch you out for a sweep. I like butterfly better as it can be used in no gi as well, were spider is purely a transition move without the gi. Passing the buterfly usually involves pinning the knees together and squashing the legs to the ground, but if they are good at butterfly you will have trouble doing that.Comment
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Originally posted by TylerDurden
What you call "butterfly" guard is what is usually called "hooks-in position" at my school. And, like you said it's used as a setup for many different sweeps. Different terminologies are used by different instructors. I knew this debate would eventually pop up
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I heard that the Tinguinha dvd is awesome. I learned 2/3 moves from the butterfly and trying to pass the butterfly this weekend at a seminar. Incredible stuff.Comment
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i don't play from it from choice alot, it just comes naturally on some of the guys who outweigh me by a bit. i just have to let go, and its easier on the knees since they don't have to put so much pressure on my knee to do an elbow escape AND i can go with it and counter pretty readily... and elevator sweeps, to triangle... are f-ing awesome!!
but "stamped in the bullocks" i don't know about that... if someone tried to stand up and put their foot down in my groin i usually counter with a heel hold sweep into a knee bar or just knock 'em straight back and use the momentum to climb into the mount.
most of my grappling groin shots are from someone trying to put their knee over to go to the mount, and they fall in the half guard and plant their knee in my groin
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