How do I run this choke...

[Junior145]

Hey all, I was watching Pride fighting at my friends house the other day and saw the fight above (sorry I'm not familiar with this sport). I wrestle and from what I saw it looks like this would be legal (I think he had an arm hooked but I'm not sure). But regardless, can someone tell me how to apply this choke?

[IPON]

[img]I wrestle and from what I saw it looks like this would be legal

This is not a front headlock ...how long have you wresltled???? Chokes legal in wreslting????

[Junior145]

When I saw it looked like he had a front headlock with one arm, then with his other arm, an underhook and his hand on the top of his head in a half or under his head, can remember and I can't tell from the picture.

ANYWAY,

How do you run it...

[EmptyneSs]

looks like the guillotine

[TylerDurden]

They have been calling it the anaconda choke, and it's not a guillotine. The basic principles are similiar to a wrestling gator roll in some ways. While your opponent is face down, quarter position, you slide an arm around his head. Position your body to the other side of his head and trap the arm on that side as well. Figure four your arms, just like a RNC. Basically it's in inverted side choke. Once you have it secured you dive roll under your opponent to tighten everything and make it harder to resist.

I am still working out the exact positioning of the arms to get the choke tight. I have caught a couple white belts with it, but it's still not right.

[Ahoym8e]

I've all but given up on headlocks. They're only good to let me catch my breath, I've found, or to transition to something useful like a neck crank.

If that is the guillotine, it's a poor picture of it. Looks like the standing fighter is clasping his wrist for the hold (maybe chainlock?). It wont get him far if he doesn't stay busy...

I headlocked a guy last night about 7 times and it never bothered him. Maybe it helped him because it kept me away from any real submissions...

[TylerDurden]

It's not a head lock, it's a choke. That picture was taken as Nog was transitioning into the move, so it's still not set in properly. Watch Nog vs Herring in the Pride HW GP Semifinals to see the choke, he also used it in the opening round against Yokoi.

[Jaguar Wong]

I was trying to get the Anaconda choke down as well. But I haven't seen the fight in question...only a picture of what looked like the final position (Nog was on his back). One thing I heard was that you have to use your hand (the arm that's not around his head/neck) to hook your opponent's lat, instead of your own ear/head. I seemed to get somewhat decent results, but it's not like we were free rolling or anything.

[wardancer]

It is the so called triangle hand choke.
I have read about it on the www.tatame.com website.
Of course, it is a BTT fighter using it but surprise the guy that taught the minautoro such move is another BTT member named Milton Veira (BB in luta Livre and brown belt BJJ). He does not claim he is the inventor of such move but some version of his luta livre knowledge.

[grapeape]

Here you go....

Here it is,

http://www.graciemag.com/news/04071203.asp

They call it a spinning choke, but it seems to be the same as the "anaconda roll" to me.

I have been submitted with this before and used it as a submission. For the guy on the bottom, it feels like a leg triangle, except the thinner bones of the arm, and the fact that at the end it is also a neck crank, make it more painful while the lights are going out.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

So how exactly do you apply pressure for the anaconda choke?

And in the link you provided in picture number 8 the guy applying the choke made afigure 4 with his arms but in figure 9 it seems he locked his hands instead. Are you supposed to clasp your hands after you finish the roll?

EDIT: Sorry don't speak portugese so i couldn't read the instructions.

[grapeape]

good point

Good point. After I reviewed it, the last 2 pictures look inconsistant. It could be that either work. I personally do figure 4, and after I have a lock, pull my shoulders back toward my spine to apply pressure. Also, instead of hooking my hand directly in my elbow, I try to grab higher up on my arm, and grip my shirt sleeve, , to make the space more of a triangle than a square. This, with the shoulder technique for pressure have worked for me pretty well.

I do not speak portugese either, I translated through babelfish.

http://world.altavista.com/

[Jaguar Wong]

I tapped my brother with this choke on Saturday (because of the link provided...Thanks!). I think the different grip was a preference thing (I remember seeing a translation to that effect). But I figure-four'd the choke to start, but when I had a hard time flipping my brother over (he's heavier and stronger than me), I ended up using the palm to palm grip to finish.

Of course we're only white belts, so it doesn't really mean much, but hey it was fun, and I was talking trash about how I was going to tap him out with it, so that made it better (although that was the only sub I got and he tapped me all day the rest of the time).