Capoeira

[Big Man]

I was just wonderin what you guys/girls thought about Capoeira. I know its history and all that but how would it stack up againsta more traditional art like karate and in the UFC. And if any of you know of any schools in Brisbane that would be great.

[DragonAE86]

I was just wonderin what you guys/girls thought about Capoeira. I know its history and all that but how would it stack up againsta more traditional art like karate and in the UFC. And if any of you know of any schools in Brisbane that would be great.

From my little understanding of Capoeira, it was practiced by the african slaves to hide any Martial Arts roots and hence the music and dance theme. But even though you have to be incredibly fit & agile to do it, I don't think it would be effective against a trained fighter and the current UFC fighters would barley get tickled - looks cools though

IMO - more effective in Tekken than real combat.

[Tom Yum]

Capoeira is mostly done for fun and fitness. You have to be limber, agile and strong - like a gymnast. As far as combat effectiveness, it can't be worse than any traditional martial art that doesn't spar.

[DragonAE86]

Capoeira is mostly done for fun and fitness. You have to be limber, agile and strong - like a gymnast. As far as combat effectiveness, it can't be worse than any traditional martial art that doesn't spar.

I would say Capoeira practioners would be fitter than your average TMA's as the physical demands are higher.

[EmptyneSs]

u will get chicks though if u do capoeira, since u will be able to do well on the dance floor, and u will be in shape.

[Ikken Hisatsu]

there is a cage fighter, jean silva, who uses some capoeira techniques in the ring effectively. none of the real flashy ones though, and he doesnt use the ginga. he is also a very good BJJer. however most of the capoeira moves he uses are only used when he is easily winning and wants to show off for the crowd.

[cakegirl]

I'm gonna go with Emptiness,

You will get chicks with Capoeira.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Capoeira men have HOT bodies!!!

Cakegirl

[Big Man]

Thanks for that cakegirl. But i've already got a good body . I'm a bodybuilder

[Joagrande]

Some truth about capoiera

Just thought i better clear some things up for you guys about capoeira..

there are two forms of capoeira. One called Angola, one called Regional... The one you have probably seen and are talking about is called Regional, it was developed by the richer portugese decendants ect, and is based on more flashy jumps ect. To do these flashy moves they needed to stand further apart from one another, so regional ended up being a pointless martial art and pretty useless...

On the other hand, capoiera angola is the traditional and original form of capoeira, based on both a loose association of african fight and defence and street fighting and survivial in Brasil in the mid 1800's. therefore it is probably one of hte most effective street fighting martical arts there is.

Capoeira angola i based on cunning and trickery, thats why they use hte ginga or stepping side to side motion, but in angola it is not hypnotic, but rather used to put off the opponent, combined with fake laughter and smiles it can be very intimidating. Basically teh martical art of angola is based on putting an apponent on the ground without 'grappling' or wrestling them. therefore it is very good against kick and punch dominated martial arts.

There are two capoeira schools in Brisbane. One is Zambiocongo, which is regional style, has been in brisbane for ages but is based merely on flashy kicks. the other group is Capoeira Angola Mae, whos mestre is an african-brazillian who focuss's strictly on the traditional angola form of the art. He is extremely dangerous with capoeira, and anyone who wishes to spar him would realise the capoeira is not just a useless 'dance'.

sorry about the story length reply, but i had to clear some things up for you guys.

cheers

[Big Man]

Thanks

Thanks for that aye, it was a great help.
I was wondering if you knew if the Capoeira Angola Mae had a website or if ya could kive me any information on the school. That would be great.

[CKD]

Well a capoeria guy did beat Bitteti http://www.bjj.org/tournaments/outcomes.html He is almost pure Capoeria from what I have heard.

[Relogio]

Capoeira -

Please let me enlighten everybody on Capoeira (and rebuke what João Grande posted)

Firstly, Capoeira Regional was created by Mestre Bimba (who was far from a rich Portuguese descendant, actually he was quite the opposite ) He learned Capoeira Angola from Bentinho an Angoleiro who worked on the ships that came into the local ports in Salvador Bahia, Brasil. To create Regional he added certain moves he learned from Batuque including kicks and sweeps and takedowns. Floreios (acrobatics) were also added to show athletic prowess.

To call one style of Capoeira “pretty useless” and describe the other as “one of the most effective street fighting martial arts” is a contradiction, since they have so many similarities. In both Capoeira Angola and Regional you learn malicia (trickery). Learn how to overcome your opponent in the Roda without breaking the flow of the game, one learns how to attack and defend simultaneously. I have been training both Angola and Regional for some time, and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Its how you use your moves, and in what context you use them.

In the Roda when playing someone from your group you might slow down a meia lua de compasso if you think it will hit their face. In a fight on the street you will throw it at full force. In the Roda you might want to enter doing a backflip, on the street you will stay grounded and not use any less effective “flashy” kicks and opt instead for more grounded kicks, elbows, knees and rasteiras.

Anyone who wishes to learn Capoeira should try out both styles and then make an informed decision on what they want to learn. If you want to learn how to fight using Capoeira, train with a Mestre who is a fighter, if you want to learn acrobatics, train with a Mestre who emphasizes acrobatics. There is enough information on both styles of Capoeira on the internet, you just have to do a little research.


Ate mais tarde tolo,
Relogio

http://www.capoeira4all.com/

[Big Man]

Which in your opinion do u think is more orientated towards street fighting or fighting out of angola or regional.

[koto_ryu]

Which in your opinion do u think is more orientated towards street fighting or fighting out of angola or regional.

Angola. My style (Capoeira Quilombo) was more Regional (it was even taught at a dance studio) but there was an Angola teacher in L.A. I went and saw his demos a few times when I was over at Pendleton, and Angola is definitely more of the martial side. Picture Regional as the flashy tournament-competitor style and Angola as the more realistic self-defense side.

[koto_ryu]

I'm gonna go with Emptiness,

You will get chicks with Capoeira.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Capoeira men have HOT bodies!!!

Cakegirl

Too bad we're always chasing after the Brazilian women in the classes with us LOL jk