most effective street fighting style?

[LoneHusky]

I agree with you.
Look at the chute box team in the early days in Brazil!
They were challenged by the local capoeira dudes in a vale tudo fight (the VY with no gloves and no rules).
The challenge had 4 fighters from each group.
Back in the days because anyone challenging your club is a big thing in Brazil, W. Silva took part in it even if his master thought he was not ready!
What were the Capoeira dudes thinking?
Capoeira vs Chute Box (Muy Thai a la brasilienne!)
Chute Box won all the fights and Silva is still doing what he knows best!

I guess sexyness can only get you so far.

[blitz]

Cross train between JKD and Traditional Jiu Jitsu would be my vote. I mean the JKD Dan Innosanto teaches where he gives a few moves from thai/tai chi and other arts to counter depending on the situation.

[Jamie"Spitfire"]

Ma will not help you, just get good sparring. Also work with hanging bags. I hang a small rice bag at groin hight and practice pretending I dont want a fight, then hammerfist the balls.

[blitz]

lol.. Well Jamie is the rice bag good? I want to make one but i dont know what to put in it? Is it harmful on the hands or anything?

[BoarSpear]

Rice is a great medium. Be aware it stings like a biotch and sends the shockwave to the elbow.

[Jamie"Spitfire"]

Lol

yup and on the cold days, woooow. aiya!!!. It gets my neibours crackingg up too. I got an old pillow case, and filled the rice to the corner, and wrapped the other side into a loop, that way I could walk and practice jabbing my fingers into it. Fist strikes a spot, finger kills the point.

[Brokenmace]

[Vale Tudo] is anything goes between 2 opponents: no rules no protections!

This is a contradiction.

Our boxing defenses here often guide people's fists into our elbows. It doesn't DESTROY their fist, though. That is a total fallacy.

You were wearing gloves, or you've been punching steel for ten years, or you weren't going full force. I encourage you to punch someone's elbow with a bare knuckles at full force (preferrably with a cross). We'll see if it merely hurts. If you are not wearing gloves while training in an "alive" manner at full speed and power, I pity your trainer. We live in a letigious culture.

And that EMPTY HAND specialists should at least consider the possibility that your attacker(s) WILL be armed. That you will have no escape or exit route?

Always consider your enemy armed. It is the fastest way not to die.

To the many who have discussed this topic in the past:

There is no superior system. There are superior artists. It is the height of arrogance to dismiss someone because they do not share your goal of brutalizing people in the street. Self-defense is not street fighting. Street fighting is not combat. None of these is the ring. Not even all rings are the same. To dismiss thousands of methods by which humans have preserved life and limb in the past thousand years because you haven't seen it played out in a ring is stupid. There are collectivley billions of Indians, Indonesians, Chinese, and Japanese, Europeans and Africans for a reason. They didn't make it into the modern era because humanity is poor at survival. Martial arts are a single piece in the puzzle of survival.

If you lose, it isn't the fault of your art. It is because you didn't do it right. If a TKD guy breaks a bottle over a biker's head, knocking him out, he wins. He gets to go home alive. It is the descriminating mind of the individual that decides to go for the bottle rather than a sidekick. And who are you to say his TKD had nothing to do with his success? Fighting isn't just technique. There are many things going on other than the ability to execute a technique under pressure.

Do not get trapped in forms.

[seanyseanybean]

very well said brokenmace.

[EmptyneSs]

interesting that muay thai was voted best art for street fighting.

[bOoRadley]

It appears that you people are incapable of an objective opinion on this subject which is understandable since you all have a very strong motive for defending whatever discipline you've chosen. It's my belief that when two people square off in the street "style" has very little to do with the outcome. Every street fight I've ever seen is usually won in the first 5 or 10 seconds by the person who makes the best first moves. The formula usually goes something like this-two guys square off, guy A knocks guy B to ground, guy B gets pummeled and kicked until fight is broken up or guy A decides guy B has had enough. I have never seen any street sparing or boxing matches.

I guess in my opinion the best style would be one that keeps me on my feet and my opponent not on his.

So which one would that be?

[Jiu Jitsu Monk]

It appears that you people are incapable of an objective opinion on this subject which is understandable since you all have a very strong motive for defending whatever discipline you've chosen. It's my belief that when two people square off in the street "style" has very little to do with the outcome. Every street fight I've ever seen is usually won in the first 5 or 10 seconds by the person who makes the best first moves. The formula usually goes something like this-two guys square off, guy A knocks guy B to ground, guy B gets pummeled and kicked until fight is broken up or guy A decides guy B has had enough. I have never seen any street sparing or boxing matches.

I guess in my opinion the best style would be one that keeps me on my feet and my opponent not on his.

So which one would that be?

I don't think there is a style that will keep you both on your feet! I would rather the style that will give me the best chance of winning with the least risk to myself. I believe that exchanging blows with someone is the quickest way to risk getting knocked out. To much comes down to who gets the lucky shot through and how hard either of us can hit. Give me control anyday!

[bigboywasim]

If I had to learn only two arts it would be BJJ and Muay Thai. These arts in my opinion are effective and have proven to beat many other arts. Put a BJJ blackbelt against any grappler and the BJJ guy most likely will win. Put any striker against a Muay Thai champ like Decker and see what happens. I have respect for all martial arts but these two are a deadly combo that I have seen with my own eyes used in street fights and the ring and they came on top. If it was between these two for the streets Muay Thai is my pick. The poll has shown that most people on this site would agree with me as well.

[OmaPlata]

Long range marksmanship and surveillance skills. Beats Bjj every time.

I missed the last UFC, was there guns allowed in that one?

[Tant01]

For going above and beyond...

Long range marksmanship and surveillance skills. Beats Bjj every time.

You kill me! I'm going to keep that one!


What's you rank and unit soldier? I'm sending in a letter of recommendation for citations and a promotion!

[EmptyneSs]

I believe that exchanging blows with someone is the quickest way to risk getting knocked out. To much comes down to who gets the lucky shot through and how hard either of us can hit.

this is only true if u dont know how to strike. a good boxer/kickboxer doesnt use luck to outstrike his opponent, he uses skill.