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hehe, that is not hostility, it is criticism. Some people have thin skin. If certain people here want to continue to spout nonsense, they should be prepared to have somebody call them on it.
We left off one very important system and I can't believe its not on here.....
REX KWON DO!
Hell yeah!
That's the one martial art that protects you in all situations, whether you're rolling around in these syringe-infested alleys that seem to be so common on the internet or taking on a mob of machete-wielding hobos.
Rex Kwon Do > MT/BJJ/TKD/Combatives and everything else.
Plus, you get to wear some cool American-flag windpants.
And if you take RexKwonDo, you get to go home to a real woman like treehugger every night!
Vunak is a tool? That's not hostility?
The only reason nuthugger is talking smack about Vunak is because he knows no one knows his real name, and no one will ever be able to make him say that stuff to Paul's face. Another internet warrior who wants to feel like the king of the world. Well, nuthugger, as long as people are being called out for spouting nonsense, why don't you post your real name and some of what you've accomplished. We'll look at that side by side with Vunak's resume and compare. If he's a tool that doesn't know anything worth a damn, your accomplishments should completely overshadow his...right?
I think someone has a case of Vunak envy...
Who here really has the Vunak envy?? . Admittedly, maybe I should not have called him a tool, never met him. But what he teaches is BS, plain and simple. I trained with one of his so called top students in Toronto for a while, and this is how I picked up on the Vu that the other fuckhead on this forum mentioned. The guy teaching this stuff was always saying Vu this and Vu that. As for me, my first name is Jeff and I can be found at www.bjj.ca. I do not give my whole name to an internet jerkoff I do not know (I bet you are proud you do, but you are really just an idiot). If you show up I will give you the last name and we can train and roll some.
I realize that the guy has trained Navy Seals, etc. but so have many karate and Aikido instructors. I have never seen the guy win any competitions. If I am wrong, please enlighten me, I would be very interested.
Admittedly, maybe I should not have called him a tool, never met him. But what he teaches is BS, plain and simple. I trained with one of his so called top students in Toronto for a while, and this is how I picked up on the Vu that the other fuckhead on this forum mentioned. The guy teaching this stuff was always saying Vu this and Vu that. As for me, my first name is Jeff and I can be found at www.bjj.ca. I do not give my whole name to an internet jerkoff I do not know (I bet you are proud you do, but you are really just an idiot). If you show up I will give you the last name and we can train and roll some.
PS, don't call me nuthugger, cocksucker
You're a bit cocky. Show some manners when you post, unless you're being true to yourself. You're on a website with alot of MA-ists from different backgrounds. Be respectfull and you'll get respect back. The Golden Rule ain't that hard.
Hey Jeff (AKA TREEHUGGER!). It's a small MA world.
You wanna talk smack do it at your own academy... Not here. You only invite the reactions you're getting and until you actually "roll" with Vunak your opinion isn't worth one Canadian cent...
All,
Please forgive my lack of tact. Nuthugger is insulting an important person to me, and I feel honest dialog is the only way to make my point.
I lived and trained with Vu for some time back in the mid 90's, and the man gave me more and did more for me than just about any other person I ever knew. As for calling you nuthugger? Eat shit. You're lucky I was that respectful. Prove you've done one tenth as much as Paul has done and you've got room to talk. Until then, you're just another wannabe, talking out his ass, trying to seem more important than you are. You said it yourself - you never met the man. You've never trained with the man. You've never known him or even seen him in person - but you're willing to talk smack about him? That's plain weak, man. Stuff like this shows how narrow minded you are -
Paul has known Rickson since the late 80's. He's trained under just about everyone who's anyone. What's more, I've seen him fight. Not in an octagon or a ring - for real. Your myopic outlook on fighting (let's roll!!) shows through again. You're a Jiujitsu guy. That's fine. Paul is a fighter. Different animal. Since you obviously don't know the difference, your childish assaults on Paul and his material are somewhat understandable. They are no more credible, but everyone can accept an idiot for simply being an idiot. You're clearly a know-nothing BJJ guy who feels bigger when attacking an instructor who's not only made his name through his accomplishments over the past thirty or so years, but who has contributed more to the growth of reality based training than nearly anyone else on the planet. Beyond that, having never trained with or met the guy personally, your opinions show the kind of mental retardation usually reserved for people dropped on their soft spots or exposed to large quantities of lead-based paint as children. I bet you get a lot of coloring books on special occasions, huh?
Final Assessment:
You're a jack-off who hasn't bothered to form an educated opinion by actually training with the guy you like to criticize. You are a "special" (as in "short bus") kind of guy who needs to criticize honest-to-God innovators to get even the slightest modicum of recognition, but who has likely failed to accomplish anything himself. I guess you feel pretty good having been a follower in some other system - someone else's boy. Paul, on the other hand, has been an innovator, and a damned good instructor, for decades.
Nuthugger.
Holy shit, somebody is a bit of a whiner . What I saw of his system was shit, I stand by that. I am not a jujitsu guy. I was boxing and training Muay Thai 12 fucking years ago, along with wrestling. (who's boy in what system does that make me?) At this point I did not even know what jujitsu was. Sure I train bjj as part of the club I am at now. I had no idea he was associated with gracie, and I do not give a shit how close you are to him. I just know what this student was teaching in 1996 (and any one of the guys I trained boxing and MT with could have gone in there and kicked his ass). Maybe he did not teach this student all he had to offer, I have no idea (but I am now interested to know). I do not give a **** about you or Vu and how close the two of you are. I tried to tell you what I was basing my assesment on, that I had never met him, only one of his top students and instead of being informative, you are insulting again, so **** you! I am anything but narrow minded. I am very open to knew ideas, but not so much to insults. Mine were only directed at one member here, now also at you Accomplishments? What about you? I have trained because I love it, have fun and compete as well as stay in shape. Those are the only accomplishments I have ever strived for in my training. You on the other hand train the deadly arts to kill, am I right?
Final Assessment:
You have no communication skills whatsoever. You are in love with a man named Paul Vunak and feel you must defend his honour (even though it was not really he I was insulting... remember, I have never personally met him... it was what I know of his system) I am not looking for any recognition, especially from a clown like yourself.
ps - respond how you will, but this is my last response to you. Show up at my club if you would like to discuss further.
Hey Jeff (AKA TREEHUGGER!). It's a small MA world.
You wanna talk smack do it at your own academy... Not here. You only invite the reactions you're getting and until you actually "roll" with Vunak your opinion isn't worth one Canadian cent...
see above and read more carefully. I recanted my statement about Vunak. But not about his sytem as I saw it! I am not talking smack, I am responding to it
Tiens, voila du boudin,
voila du boudin,
voila du boudin
Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains
Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus,
pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus
Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul
... What I saw of his system was shit, I stand by that. I am not a jujitsu guy. I was boxing and training Muay Thai 12 fucking years ago, along with wrestling. (who's boy in what system does that make me?) At this point I did not even know what jujitsu was. Sure I train bjj as part of the club I am at now. I had no idea he was associated with gracie, and I do not give a shit how close you are to him. .... I do not give a **** about you or Vu and how close the two of you are. I tried to tell you what I was basing my assesment on, that I had never met him, only one of his top students and instead of being informative, you are insulting again, so **** you! I am anything but narrow minded. I am very open to knew ideas, but not so much to insults. Mine were only directed at one member here, now also at you Accomplishments? What about you? I have trained because I love it, have fun and compete as well as stay in shape. Those are the only accomplishments I have ever strived for in my training. You on the other hand train the deadly arts to kill, am I right?
Final Assessment:
You have no communication skills whatsoever. You are in love with a man named Paul Vunak and feel you must defend his honour (even though it was not really he I was insulting... remember, I have never personally met him... it was what I know of his system) I am not looking for any recognition, especially from a clown like yourself.
ps - respond how you will, but this is my last response to you. Show up at my club if you would like to discuss further.
Spoken like a true white belt. Ignorant and proud. Internet tough guy! I hope you get humble someday.... until then
Spoken like a true white belt. Ignorant and proud. Internet tough guy! I hope you get humble someday.... until then
C ya...
Clean the shit out of your eyes son, I told you to read carefully. Before jujitsu I trained in MT and Boxing/Wrestling. No belts there. Now this is your last reply as well. I won't subjuect others to this crap any longer. By the way, I am humble too, just not when listening to idiots spout off about supposed superior styles when said stylists have proven nothing in my eyes, other than being able to beat the crap out of untrained fighters... BIG accomplishment...
ps. Tell your buddy to stop whining and replying to me, I told him I would have nothing further for him and he knows where to find me
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