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    would you use any traditional hand or foot strikes in mma? standing? on the ground? examples: knife or ridgehand to neck or face,web of hand to throat,finger spear to eyes,palm or hammer fist to face,back fist to face,spinning back fist to head or back kick to body ect. would you guys use any of this stuff in a street fight or do you fell theses are pretty much dojo fantasy garbage?

  • #2
    hmmmm well at first you said in MMA, then later changed it to street fights so what is it.

    Im only gonna adress the MMA aspect.... half of those are illegal, striking the throat or neck, or gouging the eyes, and the other half ive seen done.... hammer fist and spinning back fist you see all the time.

    Would I use a spinning backfist, no , only because Ive never been taught it, and I prolly wouldnt use it anyway.

    Would I use any knife/ridge chops or something... no I wouldnt.. never been taught, and I think punches and elbows work better.

    Eye gouges... if I could get my hands there, in a fight, not mma.

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    • #3
      dude

      The thread was for people who have or are training in mma, I want to know if mma guys would use these techniques in a street fight or not.

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      • #4
        eye strikes, sure thing
        Back fists sure thing
        Spin backfist (maybe if something went wrong and I was out of position that badly)
        Hammerfists sure thing (not to the face, collar bone though or back of the neck if the bent over.

        The knife and ridge hand usually get converted to hammer fists in a real fight.


        most of the things you said I wouldn't rule out. But it is really situational. each has it's time and place.

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        • #5
          yes

          Originally posted by eXcessiveForce
          eye strikes, sure thing
          Back fists sure thing
          Spin backfist (maybe if something went wrong and I was out of position that badly)
          Hammerfists sure thing (not to the face, collar bone though or back of the neck if the bent over.

          The knife and ridge hand usually get converted to hammer fists in a real fight.


          most of the things you said I wouldn't rule out. But it is really situational. each has it's time and place.
          yes 3 cheers for hitting people in the collar bone with hammer fists like my mma coach would say to do when you've mounted your opponent. BTW I've always wanted to axe kick someone in the collar bone when I was a full contact tkd fighter and a kickboxer

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          • #6
            also

            bang your forearms into his collor bones when your on top of him

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Blue Wave Gym
              would you use any traditional hand or foot strikes in mma?
              Hmm see that first sentence in your post... yeah that asks the question if you would use it in mma, that was the question, and nothing you said after it changed it, you just provided examples of what you would use.

              The question you asked is,

              Would anyone who trains in MMA use these types of strikes in a street fight?..... Read your posts before hitting the start thread button.

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              • #8
                naa naa

                Originally posted by SamuraiGuy
                Hmm see that first sentence in your post... yeah that asks the question if you would use it in mma, that was the question, and nothing you said after it changed it, you just provided examples of what you would use.

                The question you asked is,

                Would anyone who trains in MMA use these types of strikes in a street fight?..... Read your posts before hitting the start thread button.
                see just as I thought most martial artists are maladjusted combative angry people like myself

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                • #9
                  Ouch... Don't play that!

                  Originally posted by Blue Wave Gym
                  yes 3 cheers for hitting people in the collar bone with hammer fists like my mma coach would say to do when you've mounted your opponent. BTW I've always wanted to axe kick someone in the collar bone when I was a full contact tkd fighter and a kickboxer

                  You're just mean... Nothing wrong with knowing how, it's what you do with the knowledge that makes it wrong.


                  There is only one reason to attack that particular target. Say it with me: Deanimation.

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                  • #10
                    You can hit the neck, just not the back of the neck and throat, hitting the neck on side with a shin kick is surefire ko because hitting the side of the neck invariably hits the jaw as well.

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                    • #11
                      Whoa whoa whoa, where do you get off calling me mal adjusted... ill adjust your face if you... *mumble mumble mumble*

                      lol

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blue Wave Gym
                        would you use any traditional hand or foot strikes in mma? standing? on the ground? examples: knife or ridgehand to neck or face,web of hand to throat,finger spear to eyes,palm or hammer fist to face,back fist to face,spinning back fist to head or back kick to body ect. would you guys use any of this stuff in a street fight or do you fell theses are pretty much dojo fantasy garbage?
                        A.) knife or ridgehand-nevered thought or had reflex to use it

                        B.) web of hand to throat-used it to the throat-but not to do severe damage-worked to drop one guy in one situation with follow up-nevered used it since

                        C.) finger spear to eyes-I had taught and seen my ex girlfriend use fingers to the eyes of a guy trying to physically feel her breasts while attending a Mardi Gras parade in new Orleans-Louisiana.

                        D.) palm or hammer fist -used as one of the follow-ups with B.)

                        E.) spinning back fist per A.)

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                        • #13
                          Palm strikes, backfist and hammer fist are used all the time in MMA.

                          As for street fights, wouldn't you just use whatever was available? No referee is there to stop an eye gouge or a throat strike or whatever.

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                          • #14
                            If it is ging to lead to one of those this vs that threads, it is a old scheme over and over.

                            When the cards come down, whatever is done is per situation and stimulus response.

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                            • #15
                              What's up Blue Wave:

                              When I saw this question I couldn't help but feel that I had to put my two cents in. You see, I was a traditional martial artist before I discovered MMA and I used to ponder on what techniques "would" or "would not" work in an MMA match or streetfight. Believe me my friend, this is one debate that will probably rage on till the end of time.

                              The truth of the matter is BW, it all depends on the training and athletic attributes of the individual throwing the strike. Almost any technique will work if the individual executing it has the speed, technique, power and timing necessary to convey its effectiveness. But more importantly, its how the technique is trained. Do you perform 100 knifehand strikes on dead air? Do you practice pre arranged sequences where your more lethal strikes don't quite make contact with your partner? The way you train a technique is more important than what technique it is.

                              Now don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking on any particular style or school, but the truth is: if you don't spar often you are probably not going to be able to land even a simple punch on your opponent. Why? Simple, because even though you may be able to execute all these chops,backfists and etc. blindfolded you will not have the most important attribute of all. Experience. The most important punches in your repertoire should be Boxing's Big 4, the jab,hook,uppercut and rear straight (most people refer to it as a cross.)

                              If you've got good boxing skills you are probably never going to even have to chop somebody in the throat, or poke their eyes. When the pressure is on, I've never been able to have the precision to poke someone in the eyes at full speed. But boy have I tagged people with a good jab-straight combo.

                              I tell you what man. Try my theory out. Get some boxing gloves, good headgear and a mouth piece. Get a couple of your buddies together and just spar. Allow face punching and leg kicks. Do this for a few weeks and I have no doubt that you will discover the truth for yourself. It seems to me like you are searching for the truth in combat and the best way to find it is by fighting. Good luck.

                              And by the way, when it comes to martial arts "been there and done that" are definitely better than "heard about it, know about it."

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