what should i take?

[twtguy]

i live in a part of michigan where there is only tkd or karate. i have been a boxer for quite some time but, i would like to expand (while still boxing). i have taken tkd before but, didnt find it would be too useful in an actual fight. the karate class here offers not only karate but a little aikido, judo, jui-jitsu, and kickboxing but, its based mainly upon karate.

reading some posts here, i have found that a lot of people like neither tkd or karate. i thought karate would be good because here it's more mixed but, tkd has been said to have the most powerful kicks and i would really like to mix that with my boxing to get into more kickboxing. what should i do? these are the only things offered. what would you take?

p.s. i dont mean to be dense but, what is the difference between muay thai and kickboxing?

[LoneHusky]

karate hands down.

[OmaPlata]

muay thai you get to knee and elbow the fucker in the head, they teach you to clinch and how to avoid take downs. kick boxing is lame, its like boxing but you get to kick, wow wee. but go with BJJ if you can find it or any ground fighting

[IPON]

kick boxing is lame

Omaplata is right!! and with a boxing background you will not have too much respect for kick boxers. Also to be clear TKD and Korean art ingeneral utilize kicking more than other styles so there may be more variety but that does not mean Japanese or okinawan karate does not have powerful kicks. I am not the impressed with combo styles but in this case it may be a good thing for you. I would find out what style of karate is being taught. Also I would check out the TKD school it doesn't seem that you have been to this dojo yet and it may be alot different than the other TKD you experienced.

[twtguy]

thanks everyone for your insight. i will take it all into consideration. if anyone else would like to reply...much like the old saying, my cup is empty so you will also be takin into consideration. thanks again everyone for your time.

[LoneHusky]

Boxing is one of the best striking arts. I'd look for a grappling art if I were you.

[Sensei Saki]

And one of the best striking arts is Boxing.
What would make you look for a grappling art if I were you?

[LoneHusky]

And one of the best striking arts is Boxing.
What would make you look for a grappling art if I were you?

STFU Sensei Saki

[Sensei Saki]

Oh, you are a poet.

[Blue Wave Gym]

be ware of a sholl that offers a 'little bit of everything"

here's what a school(non-mma) that teaches differnet arts should be like: i trained at a judo school where there were also seperate japanese jui-jitsu and akido schools you had to start out at wihte belt in all of them no matter what rank you were in 1 of the other of the schools arts and their was a bit of a friendly rivialry between the classes. So this karate school sounds like perhaps not such a good idea, if the other striking skills you want to learn are kicks, knees elbows clinches ect. then LOl to both karate amd tkd cause even though tkd has good midline and high kicks and some styles of karate have good low kicks and even though you'll be kicking up a storm at tkd class if you go with either art you'll aslo sepend a shit load of time on the following crap> forms,light contact sparring, moving aroung in front stances, sitting in horse stances,and lots of other bs,don't waste your time, for more striking skills go to a mauy thai or kick boxing gym(many kickboxing schools also train/sparr with boxers to better develop their students punching skills)better yet if there's an mma school in your area go there, but if not, then if it's grappeling skills you want then> bjj, judo, sambo, submission wresting ect.
stay away from akido,aki-jitsu,japanese jui-jitsu, hapkido, the vulcan death grip, poke you in the eye-do, ect. but if it's a choice between your boxing school and nothing else than try a class and see how much of what you want to learn is taught there.

[twtguy]

whats the difference between bjj and jjj?

also judo is mostly take down isnt it? and if so why take that when bjj does that and grappling as well as take downs? if im wrong in that, feel free to correct me.

[OmaPlata]

whats the difference between bjj and jjj?

also judo is mostly take down isnt it? and if so why take that when bjj does that and grappling as well as take downs? if im wrong in that, feel free to correct me.

judo comes from JJ, its just takedowns mostly, more family friendly. Its good to know throws and takedowns, but better to know how to finish someone on the ground when you get them their. Lots of BJJ black belts have blacks in Judo also. We had a Judo black belt start BJJ and he competed as a white belt in a BJJ tourney and tossed the guys around it was kinda unfair.
Not sure the diff between BJJ and JJJ, but the Brazilians perfected the art and added leglocks the last 15 years to its teachings far as I know

[47MartialMan]

muay thai you get to knee and elbow the fucker in the head, they teach you to clinch and how to avoid take downs. kick boxing is lame, its like boxing but you get to kick, wow wee. but go with BJJ if you can find it or any ground fighting

I frown upon the multiple responses to a request and explanation to the original poster. He didn't ask what would be a good martial art to study, out of anyone's preference. He had asked, given what is available, what is a good choice.

twtguy-Stay with boxing and take this also.
the karate class here offers not only karate but a little aikido, judo, jui-jitsu, and kickboxing but, its based mainly upon karate.

[OmaPlata]

I frown upon the multiple responses to a request and explanation to the original poster. He didn't ask what would be a good martial art to study, out of anyone's preference. He had asked, given what is available, what is a good choice.

twtguy-Stay with boxing and take this also.
the karate class here offers not only karate but a little aikido, judo, jui-jitsu, and kickboxing but, its based mainly upon karate.

Go back and read his post moron, oh wait, Ill quote it for ya
"p.s. i dont mean to be dense but, what is the difference between muay thai and kickboxing?"
Anyway, I frown upon guys who take chuck norris karate, we all have seen what happens to them in MMA, poor fellas

[blend]

whats the difference between bjj and jjj?

i assume jjj is japanese jui-jitsu??

if so, bjj could be considered a refinement and expansion of jjj. jjj was limited to some short sweet brutal joint manipulations... i believe these were originally designed to prepare samurai during close quarter fighting where drawing swords was difficult.

bjj, along with aikido and judo, took the principles of joint manipualtion from jjj and developed them into the modern arts we know them as now. the original techniques of jjj are somewhat crude and not many of them.

there are some jjj dojos in japan that still practice the original art, however, it is more of a traditional art appreciation n not so much for practical application. (which is fine by me). if you are looking for real application u will find more in bjj... even aikido has far more advanced development of those original jjj techniques.

these are just from my own reading n by no means am i an expert. jjj was obviously highly effective in it's time and context.

regards
blend