GROUND CONTROL,
Renzo clearly won the first round, but there was that time in the 1st rd where Renzo had his arms wrapped around Sakuraba, and he held him against the ropes to catch his breath or plan his next move or something. Sak did not do anything at all either, but Renzo was in control and let the clock run. Also, it's fair to say that both of them may have been waiting for a restart, but-
Let's forget about names for a second....
Fighter A has his arms wrapped around fighter B. A pins B to the ropes. A has B in control, and B looks like he is waiting to counter what A attempts. However A is in control but doesn't do anything for a significant amount of time so the ref restarts.
That's precisely what happened with Renzo and Sakuraba. Renzo was fighter A, and Sakuraba was fighter B.
I also saw the Abu Dhabi photo of Sak and Renzo. After the Royler fight in Pride 8, Sak also had the icebags around his ankles at the post fight interview. After typing this long thread, i'll put some ice bags on my fuc#ing finger tips.
It doesn't matter though. I still think Renzo got his arm dislocated because he fell asleep in the last minute. I already learned this lesson in a BJJ match where they announced 1 minute left, and for some stupid reason, I decided to give only about 50% of what I had. I believe I was better than my opponent, but in that last minute, he turned up the heat, got side control and keylocked me.
I hope everybody who saw the fight did not learn from Renzo's error because it will give me the advantage in the same situation.
As for Renzo and Sakuraba it's a little obvious that the fight could have gone either way.
[Edited by Balisong on 10-01-2000 at 09:58 PM]
Renzo clearly won the first round, but there was that time in the 1st rd where Renzo had his arms wrapped around Sakuraba, and he held him against the ropes to catch his breath or plan his next move or something. Sak did not do anything at all either, but Renzo was in control and let the clock run. Also, it's fair to say that both of them may have been waiting for a restart, but-
Let's forget about names for a second....
Fighter A has his arms wrapped around fighter B. A pins B to the ropes. A has B in control, and B looks like he is waiting to counter what A attempts. However A is in control but doesn't do anything for a significant amount of time so the ref restarts.
That's precisely what happened with Renzo and Sakuraba. Renzo was fighter A, and Sakuraba was fighter B.
I also saw the Abu Dhabi photo of Sak and Renzo. After the Royler fight in Pride 8, Sak also had the icebags around his ankles at the post fight interview. After typing this long thread, i'll put some ice bags on my fuc#ing finger tips.
It doesn't matter though. I still think Renzo got his arm dislocated because he fell asleep in the last minute. I already learned this lesson in a BJJ match where they announced 1 minute left, and for some stupid reason, I decided to give only about 50% of what I had. I believe I was better than my opponent, but in that last minute, he turned up the heat, got side control and keylocked me.
I hope everybody who saw the fight did not learn from Renzo's error because it will give me the advantage in the same situation.
As for Renzo and Sakuraba it's a little obvious that the fight could have gone either way.
[Edited by Balisong on 10-01-2000 at 09:58 PM]
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