Dirty boxing and knees

[Oreomeister365]

I dunno, but I think most MMAers see things in a much more limited view, basing it off the exact drills they do and anything that matches what they've seen/practiced before. Rather then analyze the fight as it is right there, thinking what would be most ideal to knock this guy out, they simply think "throw a cross because he commited to the attack he just made" when as long as you keep things inside the limits of the himan body, there could probably be 10 different, possibly more effective things, but they would never think of that, because chuck liddell doesn't do it! or it's just crazy talk.. Hey if its more effective and it's possible do, don't do exact replicas of the 5 different punches, do what will work best-in many cases it will probably be a punch, but I think they lack that intuitive thinking unless it's laid out before them.

Well, for example, It was a bad fight, but when Rashad fought whats his name, and whats his name was on the ground, Rashad did a sort of leaping face punch---that's kinda what I'm talking about, something completey unexpected but seemingly very effective, and using much less effort than getting on the ground with him and rolling wit him I'm willing to bet.

[Garland]

I'm with you!! It seems like all the time watching mma I'm like "KNEE KNEE KNEE!!!! and it almost never happens. When it does it ussually works though, based on what I've seen.

Maybe there is a lot of off balancing and control that we can't really see that affects things.

TANG!
OI OI OI, OI!
OI OI OI, OI OI!

yup, knees are gutt. sur gutt.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Well I think sometimes they don't realize the opening in the fight because of the adrenalin rush and the fatigue. If you ever record your fights, most of the time when you watch the fight again you think to yourself "Many I could've done this move and it would've been all over, that was the perfect opening".

[waylon]

Corner

I agree. Watching a match from the couch downing a cold one is alot different from being in there. Also a good reason to listen to your corner/coach, when your in there fighting you don't always see the obvious things that your corner might.

[gregimotis]

So, yes it's easier said than done however; What we are talking about is a common MMA situation -


The two fighters are still standing, their arms interlocked in a clinch similar to that which occurs in wrestling and judo matches and to some extent boxing.

IT's not a common Muay Thai situation however, because it would be suicide to stand like that against a semi-competant thai boxer.
The straight knee to the belly is the most powerful stike in the muay thai arsenal (and that's a well shared opinion) and yet MMA fighters pass it up all the darn time, or at least amatuers do - I don't see that many ranking fights.



It's entirely possible that there is a real good reason not to use the knee, can anybody who knows explain that reason?

[waylon]

I haven't seen many mma fights recently, someone had mentioned early about takedowns......that could be a factor. I always prefered short knees to the legs (which I don't think you see alot of either) that weren't as committed, more to set up other things (takedowns or strikes). Not nearly as powerfull but it's easier to get both your feet back on the ground.