Does any martial artist in england, want to fight me?

[Oraenor]

I know a better idea than to set up these silly games of yours...Join the Army.

In the army you will:

Serve mother England
Fight as much as you want
beat up foreigners
have communal showers
sex with prostitutes

For those with even more hardcore skills...Join the prison

In the prison you will:

Fight as much as you want
have communal showers
dress in bright orange overalls like shaolin monks do
give and recieve anal


Do us a favour and beat up the yellow bamboo people, we'll give you a pat on the head and tell you that your a good boy!

[gong fu]

You seemed surprised that people thought it unreasonable to let someone back up after knocking or taking him down, rather than continuing the fight on the ground with submissions or ground and pound. So I suspect you're not used to full contact fights that allow grappling and groundwork. The difference between gloves and no gloves, cup or no cup, mouthguard or no mouthguard is NOTHING compared to the difference between fights that are permitted to go to the ground and those that just allow stand up work. So no, you really aren't used to sparring and training in rules with as little restriction as modern mma.

I also find it unlikely that you're doing a lot of full contact sparring that allows shots to the face without gloves or mouth guards. If you're doing a serious job of it, you'd likely have few teeth by now and lose a lot of training time do to broken hands.

What exactly is it you want to do in a sparring match with a local fighter that you can't do wearing a cup, a mouth guard, and 4 ounce, fingerless gloves that give you full freedom to grab and grapple?

You still haven't stopped by an mma gym. If you can't outbox, out wrestle, or submit a fighter there, it's unlikely things will go better for you against them if you take away what limited rules there are. Go there and see what we're talking about, then tell us how it went so we can have something worthwhile to talk about.

nah actually my "beef" with submission fighting with rules is simple my training has taught me ways to get out of holds that are illegal in any fighting ring, and my reactions are built into me as instinctive as breathing to do these things while someone is grappliing me, i could get out of a hold within the rules and guidlines but my first reaction wouldent be allowed and if i cant fight off reaction and built in training then my system and whole way of fighting is impared.

[gong fu]

I know a better idea than to set up these silly games of yours...Join the Army.

In the army you will:

Serve mother England
Fight as much as you want
beat up foreigners
have communal showers
sex with prostitutes

For those with even more hardcore skills...Join the prison

In the prison you will:

Fight as much as you want
have communal showers
dress in bright orange overalls like shaolin monks do
give and recieve anal


Do us a favour and beat up the yellow bamboo people, we'll give you a pat on the head and tell you that your a good boy!

lol oraenor join the army? first of all i dont like the government im against them, i dont know exactly the standpoint but i dont think ex convicts are allowed to go into the army but i might be wrong, if im right that counts me out, thirdly beating up "foreigners" im foreign to england myself so is my wife and 90% of my friends. thirdly (or something forthly who cares) i had enough communal showers in juvi thanks lol, and i dont cheat on my wife and never will im faithful so no dirty whores for me thanks, and yeah you was joking but nevermind. off the subject quickly of the army you say a 21 year old is still a kid a begginner well so are 40 year olds and older everyone is a student dont think you know better because of your age thats a mistake also that alot of know it all older generation fighters think in alot f cases, we are all students of the arts never forget that, i dont claim to be the best i dont even care to be the best, i just care about my own progress int he arts and within myself mentally and physically, i want a challenge not people who want to ridicule me, this thread is for people accepting challenges not critics, im serious not a joker.

[BoarSpear]

nah actually my "beef" with submission fighting with rules is simple my training has taught me ways to get out of holds that are illegal in any fighting ring, and my reactions are built into me as instinctive as breathing to do these things while someone is grappliing me, i could get out of a hold within the rules and guidlines but my first reaction wouldent be allowed and if i cant fight off reaction and built in training then my system and whole way of fighting is impared.

The problem with "cheating" to win is this. Cheating implys out of the ordinary.
a critical rule for a warrior is to show as little of your hand as possible. To have to cheat to defeat a normal technique implys your own technique was inferior, no true warrior expects to cheat through battle. To win with techniques that non trained people rely on (eye gouges, fish hooks, biting and groin shots) says you dont have an art to rely on in the first place. The whole point to the non attack points was honor. If you kick your opponent in the balls and he chops you across the adams apple for it, you die. However you may have ruined his ability to reproduce, that would have been dishonorable.
Does that help you any?

[Oraenor]

The problem with "cheating" to win is this. Cheating implys out of the ordinary.
a critical rule for a warrior is to show as little of your hand as possible. To have to cheat to defeat a normal technique implys your own technique was inferior, no true warrior expects to cheat through battle. To win with techniques that non trained people rely on (eye gouges, fish hooks, biting and groin shots) says you dont have an art to rely on in the first place. The whole point to the non attack points was honor. If you kick your opponent in the balls and he chops you across the adams apple for it, you die. However you may have ruined his ability to reproduce, that would have been dishonorable.
Does that help you any?

Is the issue honour or cheating? Cheating is a part of life, somthing that would let us get by.The only place cheating is wrong is in the classroom. Honour is for those who are dead, thats why they are honourable. The law of the land is to kill or be killed, thus to cheat or to be honourable is up to you.

[BoarSpear]

you say a 21 year old is still a kid a begginner well so are 40 year olds and older everyone is a student dont think you know better because of your age thats a mistake also that alot of know it all older generation fighters think in alot f cases, we are all students of the arts never forget that

Dude, excuse me a moment but STFU. People are makin fun of you because you have said you will fight ANYONE you believe you can beat ANYONE. How long has this thread been going on? Have you had a fight yet? Cant find one you say? Look up where Lee Murray kicked Tito's ass, or where Lee later got stabbed. Those people seem to like to fight without rules....have at it.

second i never said 40 years in the arts made you know it all, i said it makes you realize how little you really knew when you were 25. you will understand things about the things you think you already know. You will get smoother and FASTER after 40 years of doing something than after only 20 years....duh.

Consider also we're only trying to wake you up and save you a hospital visit or worse. If you were in the room with most of the people who have talked to you they would be happy to educate you im sure. But we arent so its verbal pimp slaps youre eatin instead of actual ones

[BoarSpear]

Is the issue honour or cheating? Cheating is a part of life, somthing that would let us get by.The only place cheating is wrong is in the classroom. Honour is for those who are dead, thats why they are honourable. The law of the land is to kill or be killed, thus to cheat or to be honourable is up to you.

He is making Martial challenges, Honor is definately involved then. This is a fight to test your mettle and skills. Maiming, crippling, and killing on purpose have no place in the ring or challenges. Outside the ring you are surviving, that has little to do with fighting, and nothing to do with honor or cheating.

if you cheat through life you are a fraud. you shouldnt have to be cheating in everyday life. Cheating means you cant keep up with the game everyone else is playing. Cheating in no way improves your skills, you seek to undermine everyone elses...

[Garland]

He is making Martial challenges, Honor is definately involved then. This is a fight to test your mettle and skills. Maiming, crippling, and killing on purpose have no place in the ring or challenges. Outside the ring you are surviving, that has little to do with fighting, and nothing to do with honor or cheating.

if you cheat through life you are a fraud. you shouldnt have to be cheating in everyday life. Cheating means you cant keep up with the game everyone else is playing. Cheating in no way improves your skills, you seek to undermine everyone elses...

Who issues duels these days?
Jesus. Somebody tell gong fu this isn't "the chinese connection" or "fist of legend".

gong fu...find an mma venue, sign up, and go at it.
if you can't fight with 4 oz. gloves, you probably can't fight without gloves.
Check out kyokushin dojos, grappling gyms, boxing gyms, muay thai gyms...look around and just do it.

I'm sick of this shit. Stop talking and go out and get me some entertainment.
I want to pop some popcorn and watch this shit.
Stream me the videos, and I'll even make a highlight reel with my roomie set to a song of your choice....
is that enticing enough, your own "rocky" montage?
go get 'em.

c'mon
c'mon
c'mon
come on
come on
COME ON
COME ON
FUCKING COME ON!!!!!!!!
do it for the little people.
I REALLY want to see you back up your pretentious hyperbole.

[Oraenor]

You know Gong fu is so cocky that it makes me interested in why he wants to fight. Maybe he has a secret weapon like a bionic arm or extra layer of fat or an extra leg or somthing.Peraps he's agro due to lack of sex like the guy off that movie "senseless" or that he's that boy that was picked at in the village and now he's back to show the world what he's made of. Either way, if he has the heart to fight, it'll be interesting since I know blood will be involved! Perhaps he's Russian or Chinese since they always wants the world to know how strong they are.Who knows, only a clip will show us!
Hurry up and fight already!

[gong fu]

i dont keep going on about it guys, seriously i said my piece and from then on ive just beenr eplying to peoples statements, time for talk is over you are correct, i wasnt bragging i was actually and genuinly trying to get a challenge from someone on here as i was just browsing martial arts knowledge i came across this site. anyways just watch ile upload some pictures of myself and ile have a few exibition fights with various MMA's then when a couple of weeks is up im fighting roger gracie, i dont expect to win apparently he is very good, but i also dont expect to lose the fight will speak for itself, we cant speak for the fight, it is the only thing that will settle this, i would like to learn from gracie about his grappling styles, maybe after we fight we can be on good terms and train together, anyways about that thing yea it probably does seem like i think i live in the times of ancient chinese warlords and warriors, its funny to onlookers i must imagine, but to me its serious i wish i did live in those times for many reasons, and to all of you guys i dont disslike any of you and i dont wish to actually argue in words with you guys i would rather you just think what you like about me, rather than you take my word for it, but yeah look forward to some good entertainment when i record these main fights, i will try to hold back my reactions and my deadly techniques on roger i will try to fight with honor under his circumstances and fighting rules, i wont try to disshonor your modern fighting rules i swear, but i cant be held respeonsable if i hurt someone and injure them from a reaction of my training.

try not to be to negative what im saying isnt false and i wish you all luck in your martial arts carees or training in the future. but im not someone to be taken lightly when it comes down to fighting, fighting is a part of my life and i will persue it now that im ready to enter your modern challenges, how about wishing me luck and just observing a man doing what he does best?

[gong fu]

"You are not as willing as you'd like others to believe. Any word from the Gracies? I have a hard time believing that you called them and were turned down. If that's the case, I'd love for you to post that challenge on their website and see where it gets you. Be sure to use your own name."

i did not say the gracies turned down my challenge first of all. but yeah i respect what you said but some things i dont agree with. about fighting with "foul" moves you seem to think that i dont want others to fight me with moves i might use on them, fighting in the ring cant be compared to a real fight, but fighting in the ring does prove a certain level of skill yes i agree. but still the 2 cant be compared i train for real self defence ie street fighting, i will enter in modern ring fighting again, but now as an adilt not a child. dont think i cant fight with gloves and rules, but i must say i fight best when im provoked and my instinct and reactions kick in, but i will test my ability with rules because i dont want to hurt people in the ring, but if some1 attacks me on the street i do want to hurt them, theres a difference in peoples real fighting abilitys with rules and without rules and gear.


peace

[Penance]

You guys realize you've been getting strung along by a troll for like...what? 6...7 pages now?

[seanyseanybean]

I cant belive no one has mentioned this, but you are obviously just lying gongfu. Your story has far too many loop holes and you seem to be constantly back peddaling and changing you story. I think you are just a bored kid who has read a book on shaolin kung fu and has decided to create a ridiculous movie/video game style character to waste peoples time.
If i am wrong then please take a picture of your self standing outside martial way which i'm sure you will know if you are really a martial artist living in london as i am. To prove it is you hold three fingers up, so that you cant just get a random pick from the internet.
If you do this, i will eat my words and belive you 100%

[BoarSpear]

If i am wrong then please take a picture of your self standing outside martial way which i'm sure you will know if you are really a martial artist living in london as i am. To prove it is you hold three fingers up, so that you cant just get a random pick from the internet.
If you do this, i will eat my words and belive you 100%

[Garland]

That's a new low, boarspear!
Goddamnit, what the **** is that, the "shocka"?

ewwwww......